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Old 05-21-2014, 07:31 PM
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SGC,

A fix or two needed; on the SGC Power Ratings

The Wallace, No Cap One Line of 1910 Stats, is clearly harder to obtain the the Two Lines. The SGC power rating is wrong.


209 Bobby Wallace (No Cap, Two Lines Of 1910 Stats) 3
210 Bobby Wallace (No Cap, One Line Of 1910 Stats) 1


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Old 05-21-2014, 07:45 PM
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I have emailed them at SGC. I'm sure they will evaluate their decision, especially if it effects business. I agree with buying the card but the holder and the old style flip was great. From the gaskets, customer service, turn around times and consistency, SGC stood strong. This new flip could change course of the "ship"..... I can hear my Garmin saying re-calculating on this decision
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I have emailed them at SGC. I'm sure they will evaluate their decision, especially if it effects business. I agree with buying the card but the holder and the old style flip was great. From the gaskets, customer service, turn around times and consistency, SGC stood strong. This new flip could change course of the "ship"..... I can hear my Garmin saying re-calculating on this decision
Great Robert...be sure to refer them to this thread in case they want to verify.
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:32 PM
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Dan I'm tracking. I let Earl and Sean know via email. Will follow up with phone call tomorrow as we'll.
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I am still pulling up the old site with the old holder. Could someone post a picture of the new holder?
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:34 PM
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Jim I think someone posted a pic earlier in this thread. I will check back to see
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I sure hope the new flips resemble the old...although I don't have any registered sets, I have been slowly gravitating to all SGC holders. If they change the flip, I will flip!!
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I am still pulling up the old site with the old holder. Could someone post a picture of the new holder?

Very odd, I'm pulling up the old site now too..... Didn't find a pic of the new flip back in the posts.
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I am sending in cards this week to SGC...I will post if I get the new flip. I am not a fan from what I can see online, but would also like to see in person before passing judgement. Overall, great company and service and my personal preference for grading services.

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Although I do buy the card and not the flip, I'm not a big fan of the new SGC design. I don't even care about uniformity, but the new flips look way too generic and low budget.

As mentioned already, they should've come up with 3 or 4 new designs and posted them for voting on their new site. It might've generated a little bit of (positive) hobby buzz and it would've prevented them from making the wrong choice.
I agree completely -

The more I look on the new webpage the more I see Pre-WWII cards in the holders with a green outline label like the "old" ones. Maybe this is not current.
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One more thing--the wider and brighter white header really takes away from the black mat look. I wouldn't be surprised if these look WORSE, not better in person.
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One more thing--the wider and brighter white header really takes away from the black mat look. I wouldn't be surprised if these look WORSE, not better in person.

I was thinking the same thing. PSA was smart to keep their label relatively uniform from the beginning. It helped build their brand. This change screams of New Coke.
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I walked in Tuesday with 2 cards (I live 40 miles from them). The 2 cards I got back were in the "old" style. Green borders, I had a card done by them in 2005 and the label looks the same. Unlesss I am not understanding the term "FLIP".
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Here is the new flip and it has been changed on the cards on their website...
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tHAT'S A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT...PERSONALLY i THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO CARRY THE GREEN BORDER AROUND THE PERIPHERY.
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tHAT'S A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT...PERSONALLY i THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO CARRY THE GREEN BORDER AROUND THE PERIPHERY.
Pete,

I agree. I like the "SGC" micro print watermarks throughout, but I think by leaving the green border on the flip, it would look very nice. Just my opinion.

Can any of the photoshop experts create a SGC slab with the new flip, and put it a T-206 card in the pic? Just to see what it may look like? The cards they pictured on their website, were newer full sized cards.

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tHAT'S A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT...PERSONALLY i THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO CARRY THE GREEN BORDER AROUND THE PERIPHERY.

I agree (but not quite as emphatically).
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:57 AM
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Agreed change will come no matter what, but I think that by simply adding a green border to the flip this will make thousands of collectors happy. Our old slabs may no longer be uniform with the new, but with the added green border they will at least look close.
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The new flip isn't TOO bad but I agree that the current one looks better. I'm also with the group that thinks the new flip would look much better with the green border.

Here's an idea of what the new flip would look like with a simple green border all the way around:



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In my opinion, it looks better with the border. Novice collectors identify SGC with the flip. If you change the color scheme, people will notice.
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I agree (but not quite as emphatically).
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