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Old 05-21-2014, 06:59 PM
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At a show, those designs will not stick out. They need to be more colorful.

Say what you want about Beckett grading but the Gold and Silver labels truly stand out at a show. These labels look like they belong to a PRO or an MGS

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Old 05-21-2014, 07:05 PM
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These labels look like they belong to a PRO or an MGS
That is exactly what I was thinking. They look like they were produced by one of the generic "companies" that only slab fake material.
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Old 05-21-2014, 07:08 PM
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I don't get this. The presentation SGC had with the black gasket, the professional, well-organized flip with the green header, everything looked incredible.

Why do they feel the need to mess with perfection?

This is going to bite them in the behind.
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That is exactly what I was thinking. They look like they were produced by one of the generic "companies" that only slab fake material.
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Many companies will test market a product and study the consumer feedback before releasing it into the marketplace. I hope SGC uses this thread as their test audience and proceeds accordingly. Obviously, with near universal dislike of this label- count me among those who think it looks awful- hopefully they will reconsider the change.

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Default i did not like the old labels at all

but i somehow like the new ones even less. Still believe Scott is probably the best grader currently working as a grader in the hobby.
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I myself am not a fan of SGC grading. I prefer everything PSA. I know everyone has there opinion on whats better well what SGC is doing in my opinion looks absolutely horrible. If your a guy like me I like everything looking the same in my set and now to change the flip is a killer. I would probably pass on a card because of the flip change.
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I'm sitting here in amazement at the irony of this thread and others.

Members chime in unison about the poor quality of the holders (any TPG) and rail on about fraudulent cards being placed in cracked holders and resold, holders (or gaskets) that don't hold the cards, or holders that are too thick or too thin.

Then the members in unison get all bent out of shape and chime in about a change in flips, whose sole purpose is to identify the card, certify its authenticity and assign an opinion regarding its condition.

And then when it comes to the cards themselves, members generally agree in unison and chime in with the Net54 mantra "Buy the card and not the holder".
If the holder and the flip are so (expletive deleted) important, more so than the card itself, isn't the mantra a bit hypocritical?

Furthermore these threads tend to promote behavior seen in conga lines with someone expressing their "personal" opinion (regarding the flip for example) and then the entire symphony orchestra feels compelled to respond in harmony usually.

Change is inevitable. Some will resist. Others will adapt. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but following a leader in lockstep didn't work in Jonestown for the Koolaid drinkers.

Be independent, my friends, and don't get swept away by the wave of a Net54 thread. Maybe everyone should design a flip they would be happy with and post it. Do you think we would agree on which one is the best? I respectfully think not.
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Let me start by saying that I am not concerned about things matching. I have cards in the same run/set that are graded by PSA, SGC, BVG and raw. The holder doesn't have to be uniform for me.

That said. I really don't have a problem with the new flip. I like that it has a simple look without a color border. I know I am in the minority and that may be because of my original statement about not needing uniformity in my holders.
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Those new flips are GAI.

Actually the new GAI flips were attractive......their holders and ability to grade was what was bad.
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Many companies will test market a product and study the consumer feedback before releasing it into the marketplace. I hope SGC uses this thread as their test audience and proceeds accordingly. Obviously, with near universal dislike of this label- count me among those who think it looks awful- hopefully they will reconsider the change.

That's only for companies that seek to make a profit.


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I will give them some props for the red authentic label. I know some don't like it, but I think it helps someone presented with a stack or pile of cards to immediately sift out or hone in on the autographed cards. It draws the eye's attention, for sure.
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I will give them some props for the red authentic label. I know some don't like it, but I think it helps someone presented with a stack or pile of cards to immediately sift out or hone in on the autographed cards. It draws the eye's attention, for sure.
I also like the red as it will stand out as opposed to the current holders.
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I will give them some props for the red authentic label. I know some don't like it, but I think it helps someone presented with a stack or pile of cards to immediately sift out or hone in on the autographed cards. It draws the eye's attention, for sure.

I agree but I would put a border around it also.
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I agree but I would put a border around it also.
If you put a green border around a red authentic it will look like a xmas card.
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Ditto.

I don't like the new labels. I agree they should use an enhanced watermark on the flip for security measures, but bring back the green border.

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