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[Lordstan]

Originally Posted by 6-4-3memorabilia

Thanks for your thoughts, looks like this Goose was a lame Duck, I don't like the G's as you said either. I really should have done my homework before the auction. However this was again an auction and they said everything was 100% authentic. What are my options really on these because I hate to have bad autos and don't want to pass them off to an unsuspecting buyer. We need a clean hobby

Either return them to the auction house or just throw it away.

[6-4-3memorabilia]

Originally Posted by Lordstan

Either return them to the auction house or just throw it away.

since you guys confirmed by thoughts the items were certified by Drew Max, I am really kicking myself about this. here is a link from the article about the auction
http://www.northjersey.com/news/sold...08551?page=all

I feel bad for the guy that spent $7,500 on the Gehrig ball, the guy spent around $12k at the auction. I kinda new about Max being a bum so I tried to buy things that I knew would not be forged such as the Wood check and the Shawkey card and I think I have a pretty good felling on Medwicks signature. My bro bought a Harey Carray check so I think that's ok, Goslin I wasn't sure about but it was cheap enough to take a risk but I have no idea why I went for the Aaron/Oh ball.

[shelly]

It would have been nice is you told us it was uthenticated by Drew Max. Unlike Psa I would have.

[6-4-3memorabilia]

Originally Posted by shelly

It would have been nice is you told us it was uthenticated by Drew Max. Unlike Psa I would have.

Yeah know hes a joke, I just wanted to get an unbiased opinion on them before you knew who the "Authenticator" was. I am sure even if real autos people would say "Its fake" just because it has Drew Max's name with it

[6-4-3memorabilia]

I should have known when they expected as they said "1,000 bidders" and it ended up being 30 to 40 people in the room and another 75 online bidding something wasn't right. Live and learn although I kind of want to contact the prosecutors office who held the auction where "Everything was 100% authentic" and tell them what I found out. I should write the newspaper that covered the auction multiple times about the findings. Maybe they will print a follow up. Im going to wait and see if anyone else surfaces about fakes. Im also going to get JSA to look at it so even if rejected I have written proof that will counter Drew Max

[JimStinson]

Oh ! THAT auction ...well welcome to the board first of all ..secondly its always a good idea to do your research before you spend your dough. As for getting your money back I would say slim to none and slim is out of town , No matter what the opinion givers have to say. Remember this as you sojourn into the world of autograph collecting. The most expensive autograph you'll ever buy in your life is one that is not authentic
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and when you venture through the perilous "mine field" known as autograph collecting keep in mind that yes some of the autographs "might" be OK..but just like if you had a nice cool , clean, ice cold glass of water and you drop only one drop of urine in it ...it becomes a glass of urine NOT a glass of water
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[brooklynbaseball]

Here is one of my Goose Goslin cards for comparison. There are no front signed Goslin cards that I have ever seen without problems concerning authenticity. A tru authentic one would be worth 10k plus. As for the back signed, you would be fortunate to find one in the 3k range. I wouldn't sell mine for that price, but you might get lucky and find one eventually.

[6-4-3memorabilia]

I just feel really bad about the guy that won the Gehrig and Walter Johnson ball, he also won a ticket stub from Babe Ruth "Called Shot" game in the 32 World Series for $1,500. No idea if it was real or not, wasnt slabbed and it was an unused ticket that looked in great condition. No way that was authentic IMO. They also had a Jon M. Ward signed Old Judge card that went for $1k that Max authenticated. No way was that even close to his sig, if that thing was real would have gone for over $10k

[bender07]

Originally Posted by 6-4-3memorabilia

I just feel really bad about the guy that won the Gehrig and Walter Johnson ball, he also won a ticket stub from Babe Ruth "Called Shot" game in the 32 World Series for $1,500. No idea if it was real or not, wasnt slabbed and it was an unused ticket that looked in great condition. No way that was authentic IMO. They also had a Jon M. Ward signed Old Judge card that went for $1k that Max authenticated. No way was that even close to his sig, if that thing was real would have gone for over $10k

That's entering Coach's Corner territory. Sky would be the limit if that were real. Way beyond $10K IMO.

[6-4-3memorabilia]

Originally Posted by bender07

That's entering Coach's Corner territory. Sky would be the limit if that were real. Way beyond $10K IMO.

probably right, being so rare even if one existed I can only imagine the price of it

[jad22]

Originally Posted by brooklynbaseball

Here is one of my Goose Goslin cards for comparison. There are no front signed Goslin cards that I have ever seen without problems concerning authenticity. A tru authentic one would be worth 10k plus. As for the back signed, you would be fortunate to find one in the 3k range. I wouldn't sell mine for that price, but you might get lucky and find one eventually.

I can only recall one authenticated front signed Goslin postcard that was put up for auction (back in 2008). Not sure what it sold for.

[djson1]

Originally Posted by 6-4-3memorabilia

... I tried to buy things that I knew would not be forged such as the Wood check and the Shawkey card and I think I have a pretty good felling on Medwicks signature.....but I have no idea why I went for the Aaron/Oh ball.

I will also confirm the Wood and Medwick sigs as good.

My advice for the Oh signature is that if you're in the market for Oh, I would always go for his signature signed in kanji (Chinese characters). Those are easier to detect for forgeries. His English only autograph is very easy to duplicate, so I would stay away from those unless you saw it in person.

Prestige collectibles has a great reference of real and fake Oh sigs here:
http://www.prestigecollectibles.com/ohfake.aspx

[6-4-3memorabilia]

Originally Posted by djson1

I will also confirm the Wood and Medwick sigs as good.

My advice for the Oh signature is that if you're in the market for Oh, I would always go for his signature signed in kanji (Chinese characters). Those are easier to detect for forgeries. His English only autograph is very easy to duplicate, so I would stay away from those unless you saw it in person.

Prestige collectibles has a great reference of real and fake Oh sigs here:
http://www.prestigecollectibles.com/ohfake.aspx

Wow, looks like PSA even authenticates fake Oh signatures