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Old 05-05-2014, 10:11 AM
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Does anyone have an example of a Mantle, Williams or DiMaggio signed piece authenticated by PSA that was incorrect? I don't think I have ever seen one (other than maybe a large bulk lot with an auction LOA).
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:26 PM
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Does anyone have an example of a Mantle, Williams or DiMaggio signed piece authenticated by PSA that was incorrect? I don't think I have ever seen one (other than maybe a large bulk lot with an auction LOA).
I would not go there. A few years ago they where set up by being sent Morales authneticated Mantle, Williams and Joe. They turned them down. Then they where set up the oppiste way and authenticated bad ones and tryed to buy them back. If I can make a mistake on those three guys so can Jsa and Psa.
No one on here knows everything.
I can tell you that Scott does more research than anyone that I know on this site. He trust no one and it takes a long time for him to buy anything.
I think everyone should take a deep breath and sleep on this one.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:45 PM
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Of course everyone can make a mistake and everyone can and has. I am not trying to take anything away from Scott, I'm sure he is very knowledgable and helped many people out. I just think it's ridiculous to pile on. It's an opinion, nothing more. Just like my opinion. Nothing more.

In reference to that Morales set up, I agree that was completely ridiculous and deserves ridicule. Bottom line is they didn't authenticate a bad item. They probably did not want to authenticate them and didn't want to be associated with Morales. The right thing to do would be to refund the money and be truthful about not wanting to be on the same item with Morales.
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The funny thing about that is they....JSA....were already associated with Morales in the sense that JSA had authenticated those items as authentic before Morales ever did. They turned down their own authenticated items simply because these had a Morales cert. Just plain stupid, underhanded, and unethical.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:49 AM
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The funny thing about that is they....JSA....were already associated with Morales in the sense that JSA had authenticated those items as authentic before Morales ever did. They turned down their own authenticated items simply because these had a Morales cert. Just plain stupid, underhanded, and unethical.
I'm not sure about unethical unless they took the money for authentication, but definitely very stupid. Everyone has a choice as to who they do business with, but I bet they wish they could do that one over again
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:10 AM
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JSA took the authentication fees, issused the rejection letters with the usual verbage, and even referenced the Morales letter on one of their rejection letters. Now being JSA had already authenticated these items as genuine, all of the ones resubmitted with Morales letters, I'd say that was unethical.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:58 PM
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I agree Big Dave.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:45 PM
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Of course everyone can make a mistake and everyone can and has. I am not trying to take anything away from Scott, I'm sure he is very knowledgable and helped many people out. I just think it's ridiculous to pile on. It's an opinion, nothing more. Just like my opinion. Nothing more.

In reference to that Morales set up, I agree that was completely ridiculous and deserves ridicule. Bottom line is they didn't authenticate a bad item.-- They probably did not want to authenticate them and didn't want to be associated with Morales. The right thing to do would be to refund the money and be truthful about not wanting to be on the same item with Morales.
Bottom line they did no authenticate any bad items.
You are so wrong. They did land up authenticateing bad items. After they where caught turning down the items.
The where sent fifty Ted Willaims and they authenticated all of them. The problem is that they where bad. They tried to buy them back from the people that sent them i(tony p) He refused and showed people that psa and jsa said they where authentic. They where again caught by there own fear of being wrong . I really dont know how anyone can trust people to authenticate something if they really dont look at the item.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:40 PM
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Shelly,
I was referencing the Morales example. Of course other items that were not authentic have been authenticated. Please read closely before attempting to put me on blast. I never said they don't make mistakes.
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