PSA or SGC?

[frankbmd]

I prefer LSMFT.

[HRBAKER]

[pbspelly]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

I used to work with an editor who would say, "No point in flagellating a moribund ungulate."

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

I used to work with an editor who would say, "No point in flagellating a moribund ungulate."

I'm going to need Barry Arnold to translate that for me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

I'm going to need Barry Arnold to translate that for me.

Yes it behooves you to do so.

[frankbmd]

it's PSA without a doubt, because



they seem to ignore large black (or maybe dark blue) spots in the background.

All grading algorithms are flawed and all graders are human regardless of which hat they are wearing.

PS - This beauty could be yours.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

it's PSA without a doubt, because







they seem to ignore large black (or maybe dark blue) spots in the background.



All grading algorithms are flawed and all graders are human regardless of which hat they are wearing.



PS - This beauty could be yours.

In their defense the corners are pretty sharp.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

it's PSA without a doubt, because



they seem to ignore large black (or maybe dark blue) spots in the background.

All grading algorithms are flawed and all graders are human regardless of which hat they are wearing.

PS - This beauty could be yours.

Ok, but I'll have to sell some high-end stuff first!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I prefer LSMFT.

Jack Benny FTW.

[buymycards]

Everyone on this board has 100% agreed that PSA is the best. There is no controversy whatsoever.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Try a google search. SGC vs. PSA net 54. Enjoy.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I prefer LSMFT.

That would be Loose Straps Mean Floppy TaTa's - Right?

[1880nonsports]

"The weak prices across the board for SGC are out there because of the card in the holder."

I'd suggest you stop buying SGC 5's and trying to cross them if that's the case.... Each company has their own grading criteria. PSA "4" cards often seem to have a small crease and I've found paper missing on the backs. SGC seems to allow for more corner wear - sometimes their VG cards are more like good. I'm in the SGC camp and I have ungraded cards as well. Vanilla, chocolate, moose tracks - there are many ways to collect. Most of the time both do a decent job. Some of the time they do a really bad job. Align yourself in either camp or neither - sometimes your unyielding blanket statements relative to quality control and pricing just doesn't stand up to the facts. If you bought a card on it's own merits and not based on what some third party said - in the long run you would likely be less disappointed.....

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

"The weak prices across the board for SGC are out there because of the card in the holder."

I'd suggest you stop buying SGC 5's and trying to cross them if that's the case.... Each company has their own grading criteria. PSA "4" cards often seem to have a small crease and I've found paper missing on the backs. SGC seems to allow for more corner wear - sometimes their VG cards are more like good. I'm in the SGC camp and I have ungraded cards as well. Vanilla, chocolate, moose tracks - there are many ways to collect. Most of the time both do a decent job. Some of the time they do a really bad job. Align yourself in either camp or neither - sometimes your unyielding blanket statements relative to quality control and pricing just doesn't stand up to the facts. If you bought a card on it's own merits and not based on what some third party said - in the long run you would likely be less disappointed.....

I absolutely did that. I will never buy another SGC card again unless I am willing to take the downgrade of a full grade.

I align with corners being more important, and probably does most of the rest of the world. That is a great talking point in of itself. If you had to stack all aspects up, corners, cleanliness, centering etc. I'm willing to bet corners are the most important to the majority of people. Prewar only people, sure, maybe not so much.

I have only ever seen three 4s with a crease in my time. The only reason they were 4s with a crease is because every other aspect of the cards were above a 4. Based on grading standard it was the minimum grade that could be given.

Missing paper on a PSA 4? What world is that comment from? How many examples can you back that up with, 1, 2, a handful of them amongst the several thousand?

Kevin

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

If you had to stack all aspects up, corners, cleanliness, centering etc. I'm willing to bet corners are the most important to the majority of people.

Corners mean little/nothing to me. Cleanliness and size. Many times sharp corners=small card.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

Missing paper on a PSA 4? What world is that comment from? How many examples can you back that up with, 1, 2, a handful of them amongst the several thousand?

Kevin

MANY more cards in PSA 4 and 5 holders with missing paper than SGC holders. MANY MANY more.

Now I will sit back and watch the fireworks begin.

[Peter_Spaeth]

SGC is more forgiving on corner wear. PSA is more forgiving on minor wrinkles and marks and spots of paper loss (or they miss them more frequently). I have questions about the purity of both companies for different reasons; hope I am wrong but have seen an awful lot that doesn't make sense.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

If you bought a card on it's own merits and not based on what some third party said - in the long run you would likely be less disappointed.....

Smartest comment made in this thread yet!! Agreed!!

[jpaol99]

If you want to get a nicely trimmed card graded then send it to PSA. That's why I choose SGC for my personal cards.

Justin

[HerbK]

Breaking News; Stevie Wonder gets hired by the PSA Grading Co.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-Cracker...item5affb9e9d8

I don't know what's sadder; the grade or the fact the guy wants $425 for it ....

[MyGuyTy]

I prefer CSA.......they've done studies you know, 60% of the time they get it right every time

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HerbK

Breaking News; Stevie Wonder gets hired by the PSA Grading Co.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-Cracker...item5affb9e9d8

I don't know what's sadder; the grade or the fact the guy wants $425 for it ....

Honestly, I might respectfully disagree with you. For PSA grading standards I think it is probably correct. There is a sheet or more of those types of micuts/misprints floating around. I have a few numerically graded and I like them. I could care less about the actual grade but do think they probably got it right....(my opinion). One of these misprints is a PSA 4 MC and the other is an SGC 40....and I should add that in the future a comment like you made really needs to have your full name by it. Nothing personal...