Ty Cobb 1911 D304 General Bakery, "Star Breads" Card

[Sean1125]

Jeff, you've used too many long words for me.

[CW]

I can't wait to hear the results!

Although, I guess if we don't hear back at all, we can assume what happened...

If the OP comes on here and admits that SGC found them all to be not authentic, I will gain a lot of respect for him (I actually think he's handled the abuse on here quite well, all things considered. And, yes, the OP could've used a bit more tact).

[sycks22]

My favorite part of the thread is when he comments on his own comments.

[ctownboy]

IMHO, this is a late April Fool's Day joke.

I have gone and still go to a lot of auctions. Large, small, indoor, outdoor, city, country, ones that start at 9 A.M. and ones that start at 7 P.M. It is VERY hard for me to believe that these cards were found in the bottom of a box and NOBODY knew they were there (especially the auctioneers).

No matter WHAT auction I have gone to, there are ALWAYS people digging through EVERY box to see what is in it. So even if people didn't know the real value of these cards there had to be a couple of people at the auction who would have at least thrown some bids on these things to drive their price up to more than $100 dollars. This is especially true since all the cards seem to be of big name players.

I can understand if a handful of common T 206 cards were found and nobody at an auction knew that a Drum back on one of them was something special. But, come on, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Jackie Robinson and other big name players?

NOBODY else saw these cards in the bottom of a box and NOBODY decided to run the OP up in price just for the heck of it?

A few years ago, I went to an auction SPECIFICALLY for a stack of B-18 blankets. When they came up, only two other people even paid attention to the stack and that was because the auctioneer made a big deal out of these being older baseball items.

Only another guy and myself were bidding on them and I had the top bid at $100 dollars (there were 39 total blankets in the stack including a Walter Johnson) so I was stoked to think that I was going to get these so inexpensively. At that moment, however, a wealthy guy who regularly attends this auction noticed what was going on. He bid me up until I won the blankets for $325 dollars. Still a good deal but not as good as it could have been.

The moral is, at EVERY auction I have ever attended there is ALWAYS at least one person there who has money and who will bid something up (even if they don't really know what it is and don't really have any interest in it) just because they think someone else is getting a good deal on it.

David

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

IMHO, this is a late April Fool's Day joke.

I have gone and still go to a lot of auctions. Large, small, indoor, outdoor, city, country, ones that start at 9 A.M. and ones that start at 7 P.M. It is VERY hard for me to believe that these cards were found in the bottom of a box and NOBODY knew they were there (especially the auctioneers).

No matter WHAT auction I have gone to, there are ALWAYS people digging through EVERY box to see what is in it. So even if people didn't know the real value of these cards there had to be a couple of people at the auction who would have at least thrown some bids on these things to drive their price up to more than $100 dollars. This is especially true since all the cards seem to be of big name players.

I can understand if a handful of common T 206 cards were found and nobody at an auction knew that a Drum back on one of them was something special. But, come on, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Jackie Robinson and other big name players?

NOBODY else saw these cards in the bottom of a box and NOBODY decided to run the OP up in price just for the heck of it?

A few years ago, I went to an auction SPECIFICALLY for a stack of B-18 blankets. When they came up, only two other people even paid attention to the stack and that was because the auctioneer made a big deal out of these being older baseball items.

Only another guy and myself were bidding on them and I had the top bid at $100 dollars (there were 39 total blankets in the stack including a Walter Johnson) so I was stoked to think that I was going to get these so inexpensively. At that moment, however, a wealthy guy who regularly attends this auction noticed what was going on. He bid me up until I won the blankets for $325 dollars. Still a good deal but not as good as it could have been.

The moral is, at EVERY auction I have ever attended there is ALWAYS at least one person there who has money and who will bid something up (even if they don't really know what it is and don't really have any interest in it) just because they think someone else is getting a good deal on it.

David

I believe his tale involves an estate sale not an auction.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

IMHO, this is a late April Fool's Day joke.

I have gone and still go to a lot of auctions. Large, small, indoor, outdoor, city, country, ones that start at 9 A.M. and ones that start at 7 P.M. It is VERY hard for me to believe that these cards were found in the bottom of a box and NOBODY knew they were there (especially the auctioneers).

No matter WHAT auction I have gone to, there are ALWAYS people digging through EVERY box to see what is in it. So even if people didn't know the real value of these cards there had to be a couple of people at the auction who would have at least thrown some bids on these things to drive their price up to more than $100 dollars. This is especially true since all the cards seem to be of big name players.

I can understand if a handful of common T 206 cards were found and nobody at an auction knew that a Drum back on one of them was something special. But, come on, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Jackie Robinson and other big name players?

NOBODY else saw these cards in the bottom of a box and NOBODY decided to run the OP up in price just for the heck of it?

A few years ago, I went to an auction SPECIFICALLY for a stack of B-18 blankets. When they came up, only two other people even paid attention to the stack and that was because the auctioneer made a big deal out of these being older baseball items.

Only another guy and myself were bidding on them and I had the top bid at $100 dollars (there were 39 total blankets in the stack including a Walter Johnson) so I was stoked to think that I was going to get these so inexpensively. At that moment, however, a wealthy guy who regularly attends this auction noticed what was going on. He bid me up until I won the blankets for $325 dollars. Still a good deal but not as good as it could have been.

The moral is, at EVERY auction I have ever attended there is ALWAYS at least one person there who has money and who will bid something up (even if they don't really know what it is and don't really have any interest in it) just because they think someone else is getting a good deal on it.

David

You would think that this would be the case where authentic cards of big stars like Ruth would not go unnoticed. However, as another poster mentioned, it was an estate sale, and these things do happen such as here: Link, where the OP found an authentic Eclipse Ruth strip at an estate sale for sale in a ziplock bag for $10! This has been the only uncut salesman strip that has ever been found with Ruth. I purchased a Universal Toy panel with Ruth from a seller on ebay earlier this year, who told me he also found it at an estate sale. Last year, there was a "find" for a partial set of extremely rare Sociedade cards, which had multiple Ruth and Gehrig cards, where the ebay seller told me he picked up at a flea market, of all places. So, these things do happen more often than you would think.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by glchen

You would think that this would be the case where authentic cards of big stars like Ruth would not go unnoticed. However, as another poster mentioned, it was an estate sale, and these things do happen such as here: Link, where the OP found an authentic Eclipse Ruth strip at an estate sale for sale in a ziplock bag for $10! This has been the only uncut salesman strip that has ever been found with Ruth. I purchased a Universal Toy panel with Ruth from a seller on ebay earlier this year, who told me he also found it at an estate sale. Last year, there was a "find" for a partial set of extremely rare Sociedade cards, which had multiple Ruth and Gehrig cards, where the ebay seller told me he picked up at a flea market, of all places. So, these things do happen more often than you would think.

Perhaps such finds could occur at an Estate Sale. In this case though, it matters not whether they are from an Estate Sale, an Auction or Grandpa's attic. The cards, at least the ones he has provided scans for, are reprints.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

Perhaps such finds could occur at an Estate Sale. In this case though, it matters not whether an Estate Sale, an Auction or Grandpa's attic. The cards, at least the ones he has provided scans for, are reprints.

Yep, I completely agree that the card in question here is a reprint.

[buymycards]

I'm not sure I believe the "estate sale" story. I'm thinking he feels we are a bunch of dopes and we would be making offers on his fake cards.

I doubt that he has submitted anything to SGC. A scan of the SGC submission form would prove me wrong.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by buymycards

I'm not sure I believe the "estate sale" story. I'm thinking he feels we are a bunch of dopes and we would be making offers on his fake cards.

I doubt that he has submitted anything to SGC. A scan of the SGC submission form would prove me wrong.

Rick... Assuming they were submitted.... We KNOW he would be back to gloat should they by some miracle get a grade. The real question is if he will cowboy up and admit they are garbage when they come back unslabbed. Likely, we have heard the last from him.