Ty Cobb 1911 D304 General Bakery, "Star Breads" Card

[wolf441]

Steve, they are 100% fakes, it's okay. You tried to come on a vintage card site and get them by the experts.

We're only kidding with you, we're having a party. You haven't been here very long and we're breaking your balls, and you're getting f*cking fresh. We're sorry, we didn't mean to offend you.....

Now go home and get your f*ckin' shinebox.

[Skrubinski]

The bad part is that I didn't try to get anything by anyone. I asked a simple question. Cards are being graded by experts not wannabes

[Skrubinski]

So pound salt

[ksabet]

These are real too:

[HRBAKER]

Now those are rounded corners.

[MMarvelli]

Originally Posted by ksabet

These are real too:

Rounded corners...dead giveaway!

[Bocabirdman]

Steve,

You, of course, would rub our noses in the final product, slabbed and graded, but will you man up an admit when we are proven 100% correct? (because we are).

[Skrubinski]

Not planning on doing either. Some already graded and yup I can state without exception that the ones already graded are not fake but as I only joined to ask a simple question and the responses have not at anytime provided the answer best of luck. I have nothing to prove to anyone on this site.

[Bocabirdman]

Gee....I feel s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o used

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

Not planning on doing either. Some already graded and yup I can state without exception that the ones already graded are not fake but as I only joined to ask a simple question and the responses have not at anytime provided the answer best of luck. I have nothing to prove to anyone on this site.

Suddenly, they are graded? If that were true, you would have posted scans of the slabs to rub our noses in it. Has Adrian slipped past Leon?

[Paul S]

A guy and his dog walk into a bar...

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

Suddenly, they are graded? If that were true, you would have posted scans of the slabs to rub our noses in it. Has Adrian slipped past Leon?

Take a second and read post some are graded yes but not final so I don't have in my hands but whatever. What a waste of my time to ask a question. Glad I'm not relying on this group to get real answers

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

The bad part is that I didn't try to get anything by anyone. I asked a simple question. Cards are being graded by experts not wannabes

The bad part is that you have fake cards. The good part is that we're laughing at you and your fake cards.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

The bad part is that I didn't try to get anything by anyone. I asked a simple question. Cards are being graded by experts not wannabes

Absolutely not trying to bust your balls but the reason people started to take offense to your posts and started getting snippy with you is when you started taking potshots at this forum and saying only those who touch the cards, local dealers, and grading companies are the true experts. Myself and any number of the "experts" on this forum have literally dealt thousands of these cards in out lifetimes and to say some local card-shop owner knows more than the least knowledgeable guy here is laughable at best--those guys may know the best Robinson Cano rookie but not this type of stuff. We can literally spot fakes like these from a mile away. Guess where the grading companies come when they don't know a particular set? Guarantee they go to someone that calls this site home!

Just as an FYI, a true vintage find will almost NEVER have cards that range in age from 1910 era to the mid-1950's, that and where are the commons? The biggest red-flag EVER when looking at cards at future estate sales is the following... for every Mickey Mantle, Ty Cobb, or Babe Ruth there should be equal numbers of Carl Willey, Davy Jones or George Earnshaw's! If you only find big names from all different eras. from different sets, all with equal amounts of wear to corners it shouldn't pass the initial smell test.

Again, not trying to bust your balls, just giving you some insight for future reference.

-Rhett Yeakley

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Absolutely not trying to bust your balls but the reason people started to take offense to your posts and started getting snippy with you is when you started taking potshots at this forum and saying only those who touch the cards, local dealers, and grading companies are the true experts. Myself and any number of the "experts" on this forum have literally dealt thousands of these cards in out lifetimes and to say some local card-shop owner knows more than the least knowledgeable guy here is laughable at best--those guys may know the best Robinson Cano rookie but not this type of stuff. We can literally spot fakes like these from a mile away. Guess where the grading companies come when they don't know a particular set? Guarantee they go to someone that calls this site home!

Just as an FYI, a true vintage find will almost NEVER have cards that range in age from 1910 era to the mid-1950's, that and where are the commons? The biggest red-flag EVER when looking at cards at future estate sales is the following... for every Mickey Mantle, Ty Cobb, or Babe Ruth there should be equal numbers of Carl Willey, Davy Jones or George Earnshaw's! If you only find big names from all different eras. from different sets, all with equal amounts of wear to corners it shouldn't pass the initial smell test.

Again, not trying to bust your balls, just giving you some insight for future reference.

-Rhett Yeakley

So to get this straight. Every collector does it exactly like this group. Enjoy

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

So to get this straight. Every collector does it exactly like this group. Enjoy

Worst mistake for anyone is to ask a question of anyone on this site. You might know what your doing but I doubt any of you can do what even seasoned professionals can do grade by poor picture

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

Worst mistake for anyone is to ask a question of anyone on this site. You might know what your doing but I doubt any of you can do what even seasoned professionals can do grade by poor picture

Cant

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

Cant

quite get it out?

There is an edit feature in each post so you can edit grammatical errors, fyi....

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

You might know what your doing but I doubt any of you can do what even seasoned professionals can do grade by poor picture

Who are these "seasoned professionals"? The young kids that grade for PSA and SGC? You can't really be serious. The people on this forum have more knowledge in their little fingers. Also, what you posted wasn't as "poor" of a picture as you are letting on... every single red-flag imaginable is in every one of your pictures you have posted, go re-read my post as it is obvious you didn't read it to begin with. The later pictures are even worse (and even more fake)!

You literally have a group of the most knowledgeable pre-WW2 baseball card collectors on the planet right here and you keep taking pot-shots at them and then feigning that you were totally innocuous when you came here and everyone is just ganging up on you.

Tip of the day for you... when confronted by someone who knows a hell of a lot more than you do... shut up and listen!

Edited to add: I'm calling "bull-crap" on you claiming any of the cards you just posted were graded! You have scanning capabilities so prove me wrong. What you have is the garden variety vintage card scam that many people fall for that aren't well-versed in the hobby, nothing to get bent out of shape over as you said you weren't out much money but me thinks thou doth protest too much...

[Iron Horse]

Finally some juicy read

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Steve, they are 100% fakes, it's okay. You tried to come on a vintage card site and get them by the experts.

We're only kidding with you, we're having a party. You haven't been here very long and we're breaking your balls, and you're getting f*cking fresh. We're sorry, we didn't mean to offend you.....

Now go home and get your f*ckin' shinebox.

LOL...you mudda***** (joe pesci voice)

[frankbmd]

Tomorrow we will all be fawning over "The Strubinski Find".

We are a fickle group.

I can't wait to see those grades myself.

Thanks for sharing.

By the way you can also post on the April Pick-up Thread.

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Tomorrow we will all be fawning over "The Strubinski Find".

We are a fickle group.

I can't wait to see those grades myself.

Thanks for sharing.

By the way you can also post on the April Pick-up Thread.

Not putting good or bad results on this. I can care less my cost is only grading and the time I wasted on this site

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

Not putting good or bad results on this. I can care less my cost is only grading and the time I wasted on this site

First of all, you type as if you've had a stroke -- is that your problem? Second, to lie and act as if you don't care if the cards are real just makes you look like more of an idiot than before (assuming this is possible). If real, you'll have your biggest payday in your life. If not, you're back to whatever hum drum, post-stroke job in which you're currently mired. And if you're constantly bemoaning the time you've "wasted" on this site, why not take your fake cards and GTFO?

[barrysloate]

Skrubinski- Sorry I'm a little late here but I am out of town this week. Where do I start. First off, it's really bad form to come on a forum with many of the most knowledgeable collectors in the hobby and call them idiots.That will never work. We get a lot of threads like this, where people who aren't collectors find things and ask the experts what they think. We're all pretty good at this.

And before you go calling me an idiot (you wouldn't be the first to do so) I've been a full time dealer of baseball memorabilia since 1982. That said, none of the cards you found appear to be real. Certainly, the d304 Cobb is without a doubt a reprint. When you hear from SGC today, you will find that out.

Do you notice that every corner of every card you have has pretty much the same exact corner wear? That's a really bad sign right there. Cards don't all wear in exactly the same way.

Anyway, you will find out the bad news for yourself. But bad form all the way around.

[chipperhank44]

I'm late to the party as well, but I've learned along the way that anytime you find extremely high dollar cards from different eras all together without any other mid-range to low-end cards, you should be very suspicious.

Also, the cards you have are without a doubt some of the most often faked cards I've seen over the past few years. Fake Hank Aaron Rookies, Leaf Ted Williams & Stan Musials, and Goudey Babe Ruths turn up at small local auctions and estate sales fairly regularly. I was honestly surprised not to see a 1956 Mantle included, it's a staple as well in that grouping of fake cards.