T206 'Unopened' Boxes!

[arc2q]

I've seen these listed a lot recently from this seller. It's not exactly clear what he's selling. Is it a sealed box of t206 reprints with one real buyback inserted randomly? Is this a homemade item or a truly "factory-sealed" product?

I hate poorly written eBay descriptions!

[steve B]

I'm thinking he bought a few good sized lots of beat T206s and has packaged them with a handful of better cards added in.

A vague listing, but if you can find say 500 beaters at an average of 10- 15 bucks each and add a few tough backs, even at an added cost of maybe 10K total? Then sell them for fifty bucks a card..... Works out to a $7500 net less Ebay fees. Even more beaters and it's better still.

Not a bad angle if you've got the time, or if you have a load of crummy T206s you bought even cheaper years ago.

Steve B

[bn2cardz]

It appears to be a poorly executed version of the OP's idea in this thread:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1032725

If there were nice packaging and a list of exactly what has been distributed in packs it could be a good idea.

[team-of-rivals]

Originally Posted by steve B

I'm thinking he bought a few good sized lots of beat T206s and has packaged them with a handful of better cards added in.

A vague listing, but if you can find say 500 beaters at an average of 10- 15 bucks each and add a few tough backs, even at an added cost of maybe 10K total? Then sell them for fifty bucks a card..... Works out to a $7500 net less Ebay fees. Even more beaters and it's better still.

Not a bad angle if you've got the time, or if you have a load of crummy T206s you bought even cheaper years ago.

Steve B

Maybe I have trust issues b/c I simply don't believe that what's going into these boxes is anything other than trash. If you read his 'refund policy,' he begins to cover his @ss right from the get go. To each his own....

From the listing:

'No Refunds offered unless cards are damaged. No Buyers Remorse Refunds will be given. If you aren't confident with your bid, then don't bid please. If you end up pulling a card that is worth less than the box, still no refunds given. Many companies such as Topps, Panini, UD, and others don't give any refunds besides replace single cards on damaged cards.'

*Please leave feedback based on shipping, etc as I only list the boxes.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by team-of-rivals

Maybe I have trust issues b/c I simply don't believe that what's going into these boxes is anything other than trash. If you read his 'refund policy,' he begins to cover his @ss right from the get go. To each his own....

From the listing:

'No Refunds offered unless cards are damaged. No Buyers Remorse Refunds will be given. If you aren't confident with your bid, then don't bid please. If you end up pulling a card that is worth less than the box, still no refunds given. Many companies such as Topps, Panini, UD, and others don't give any refunds besides replace single cards on damaged cards.'

*Please leave feedback based on shipping, etc as I only list the boxes.

Well you could always get this card for $50... (a card he recently bought for $14.99)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...item35d4bcc0bb

[bn2cardz]

Other great cards you could have bought for less than $20... or now for $50:









Or here is one of those rare backs you can have for $50:



Click on any above photo to see how much the seller of these $50 packs paid for any of the cards.

[thehoodedcoder]

what do you think the odds are you actually could pull a drum.

zero percent or less than that?

how many people do you think would actually buy this, thinking that the odds

are greater than zero percent?

he doesn't even have an image of his product.

kevin

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

what do you think the odds are you actually could pull a drum.

zero percent or less than that?

how many people do you think would actually buy this, thinking that the odds

are greater than zero percent?

he doesn't even have an image of his product.

kevin

Looking through the cards he has purchased (and displayed a few above) there isn't a single card he has bought for more than $20... maybe he figures with enough profit eventually he can buy one just so that someone will say they got one, but even if that is his plan I doubt he would follow through figuring that flipping cards for at least a $30 profit every time is good enough.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by team-of-rivals

Maybe I have trust issues b/c I simply don't believe that what's going into these boxes is anything other than trash. If you read his 'refund policy,' he begins to cover his @ss right from the get go. To each his own....

From the listing:

'No Refunds offered unless cards are damaged. No Buyers Remorse Refunds will be given. If you aren't confident with your bid, then don't bid please. If you end up pulling a card that is worth less than the box, still no refunds given. Many companies such as Topps, Panini, UD, and others don't give any refunds besides replace single cards on damaged cards.'

*Please leave feedback based on shipping, etc as I only list the boxes.

Yeah, he's covering himself just the way Topps and UD and whoever else is left does these days.

I didn't say I'd be buying any, just what I thought his angle was.

Sort of an advanced version of the typical flea market or even retail "package of cards for $X" ---Sealed team set bag or maybe 50ct plastic box with a star or semi star on the top and bottom, and the rest almost guaranteed to be VG 88 Donruss. (Retail is usually 100 cards in a slick package for 5-6 bucks)

I do buy those retail ones once in a while, usually if it looks like there's a card I like on top or a bunch of something I collect inside. You get pretty good at recognizing some sets in a random stack. I had a big surprise in my last one. A 1965 common! Oldest card I've ever seen in one of those packages.

Steve B

[tschock]

Originally Posted by team-of-rivals

From the listing:

'No Refunds offered unless cards are damaged. No Buyers Remorse Refunds will be given. If you aren't confident with your bid, then don't bid please. If you end up pulling a card that is worth less than the box, still no refunds given. Many companies such as Topps, Panini, UD, and others don't give any refunds besides replace single cards on damaged cards.'

*Please leave feedback based on shipping, etc as I only list the boxes.

Is that the buyer's loophole? Wouldn't anything with a crease, mark, rounded corners, etc be considered "damaged"?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Interesting idea. My biggest concern (there are definitely other concerns) is that he does not even post a picture of the product. As a potential customer I want to see an image of the item I am buying (or at least a stock photo).

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

Interesting idea. My biggest concern (there are definitely other concerns) is that he does not even post a picture of the product. As a potential customer I want to see an image of the item I am buying (or at least a stock photo).

Just look at his past buys, that is what you are getting. An authentic or 1 graded card that isn't worth anything near the $50 asking price.

[GrayGhost]

Tis a come on and Garbage deal.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by arc2q

I hate poorly written eBay descriptions!

So should eBay!