Altoona Tribune initial distribution date determined.

[ethicsprof]

great research with such substantive and corroborative results.
many,many thanks for all of your most diligent efforts.
I do agree that research is one of top reasons this hobby is so captivating.
all the best to you,
barry

[nolemmings]

Thanks for the kudos.

As for Matty, I agree it's odd he is mentioned twice as being in the set. He was not--no card of him has surfaced, and existing complete sheets of m101-4 and m101-5 do not show him as included. Maybe Mendelsohn promoted him as being in the set, although his name does not pop up in the only known advertising flyer. Maybe it was assumed he would be included, although he was pretty much done by then, with 1916 his last year on the mound. Of course, it would have been awesome had he been part of the set--Plank too. I doubt it was for lack of an image that he was left out. I still suspect Mendelsohn at least knew about the B&W uncatalogued set from circa 1915, if not playing a part in its development. That set includes the Matty you referenced, which pose Mendelsohn then used in his uber-scarce M-Unc set from 1917, seen here:

Seems likely to me that at least this image was available to ol' Felix if he wanted Matty in the set. Still and again, there's no evidence that Matty ever made the final cut.

[smtjoy]

Great research Todd! Keep it up!

Interesting they would advertise that much about Matty being included when he was not. Any chance the 20 cards they gave out were the M-Unc do the players match up with what is listed (not sure if any of the players/teams are confirmed only 1917 and later too). It says a set of 20, how many different M-UNC's are confirmed?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Thanks for the kudos.

As for Matty, I agree it's odd he is mentioned twice as being in the set. He was not--no card of him has surfaced, and existing complete sheets of m101-4 and m101-5 do not show him as included. Maybe Mendelsohn promoted him as being in the set, although his name does not pop up in the only known advertising flyer. Maybe it was assumed he would be included, although he was pretty much done by then, with 1916 his last year on the mound. Of course, it would have been awesome had he been part of the set--Plank too. I doubt it was for lack of an image that he was left out. I still suspect Mendelsohn at least knew about the B&W uncatalogued set from circa 1915, if not playing a part in its development. That set includes the Matty you referenced, which pose Mendelsohn then used in his uber-scarce M-Unc set from 1917, seen here:

Seems likely to me that at least this image was available to ol' Felix if he wanted Matty in the set. Still and again, there's no evidence that Matty ever made the final cut.

Maybe some day we will have the pieces to put together? It would be great to find out what these 1915 W-Uncs actually are....as well as this other E-Unc...Archer played from 1904 - 1918....

[Al C.risafulli]

That's fantastic, Todd.

The detective work is also my favorite part of the hobby. Great work! Thanks for sharing it with us.

-Al

[h2oya311]

Great thread!!