Interesting Request: Documentation of Provenance in Your Collection for Article

[Runscott]

Please keep a page open for me. I knew saving those old blank scrapbook pages would come in handy some day. Now I just need to find my lemon juice.

[bat_master]

I've got a pair of Joe Sewell's cleats with letter from Joe Sewell as well as the box he used to send them to the previous owner with the address label filled out in Joe's hand. Does that count?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...6&postcount=25

[drcy]

The Sewell is a great example. I will use. If you want to be personally credited for the photos let me know. Some people like their names in print and some don't, so it's up to you.

[bat_master]

I haven't seen my name in print much...might as well take the credit. Would you like the larger versions emailed? I can certainly do that.

Thanks!

[drcy]

The photos are good enough. There's nothing errant with wanting credit. I'd like credit if I provided photos of my stuff for someone's article and most people like to see their names in print. I just know that in the past a few people have asked that they not be credited. So I ask.

As far as Scott's comments go, the article is about all angles and sides of provenance documentation, the positive aspects (of which there are many, including some that many sports collectors don't realize) and the limitations. It doesn't dismiss the possibility that someone like Scott can forge a letter of provenance for his Mother Teresa/Elvis Presley/Shemp Howard signed original vinyl copy of The White Album or Vatican gift shop sales receipt for his first edition copy of the Old Testament signed by the author. And, of course, the number of eBay fakes "discovered in grandmother's cabinet" has become a running joke in the vintage baseball card hobby.

Anyone who's seen the classic 1980s British historical sit com Blackadder may remember the scene where the Middle Ages Bishop of Canterberry and his assistants were talking about their sales of fake religious artifacts to the public. They had for sale Jesus' fingers (in boxes of five, several boxes for sale) and Joan of Arc's bra.

Duly note the article is largely about the importance of documenting provenance.

[Michael B]

I may be able to send you something to use. I have the competitor's number worn by a U.S. Olympic track and field athlete during the 1948 Olympics. He sent it to me, totally unsolicited, with a nice letter last year. I also have an original press photo of him wearing it in a race. I had posted about it in the autograph section last year.

[drcy]

That sounds great, if you can get all three in one shot. In fact, the article specifically mentions how old photos of an item can be part of provenance documentation. You can email to cycleback@cycleback.com

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drcy

The photos are good enough. There's nothing errant with wanting credit. I'd like credit if I provided photos of my stuff for someone's article and most people like to see their names in print. I just know that in the past a few people have asked that they not be credited. So I ask.

As far as Scott's comments go, the article is about all angles and sides of provenance documentation, the positive aspects (of which there are many, including some that many sports collectors don't realize) and the limitations. It doesn't dismiss the possibility that someone like Scott can forge a letter of provenance for his Mother Teresa/Elvis Presley/Shemp Howard signed original vinyl copy of The White Album or Vatican gift shop sales receipt for his first edition copy of the Old Testament signed by the author. And, of course, the number of eBay fakes "discovered in grandmother's cabinet" has become a running joke in the vintage baseball card hobby.

Anyone who's seen the classic 1980s British historical sit com Blackadder may remember the scene where the Middle Ages Bishop of Canterberry and his assistants were talking about their sales of fake religious artifacts to the public. They had for sale Jesus' fingers (in boxes of five, several boxes for sale) and Joan of Arc's bra.

Duly note the article is largely about the importance of documenting provenance.

Your Vatican comment reminded me of my piece of the true Cross that has the original letter of provenance from the street vendor my ancestor bought it from in Constantinople. I suspect the letter might be fake, though.

Also, why do you keep making fun of my Bible? And it's the editor who signed it, not the author - big difference.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Your Vatican comment reminded me of my piece of the true Cross that has the original letter of provenance from the street vendor my ancestor bought it from in Constantinople. I suspect the letter might be fake, though.

Also, why do you keep making fun of my Bible? And it's the editor who signed it, not the author - big difference.

When I was at the Vatican they where trying to sell me a piece of the Yakama that Jesus wore, it had a coa from Peter.