same autograph-2 differant current auctions

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by bender07

How about this one...different ebay seller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Rookie-...item3cde77517a

http://www.iconicmemorabilia.com/Lot...ture-%28JSA%29

The ebay seller is in Cave Creek, Arizona which appears to be about 20 miles north of Scottsdale. Iconic lists a Scottsdale address on the bottom of their site.

Serious ethical possible legal issues here. "I am offering this item in an open/public auction, however, if I sell it for the price I want on another platform you are stuff out of luck." I may as well list everything I am bringing to The National on ebay starting on the Monday before with a BIN price. If you come to my table and want to purchase it you will need to wait until I check to see if someone purchased it on ebay before I can sell it to you or vice versa.

[bender07]

Originally Posted by Michael B

The ebay seller is in Cave Creek, Arizona which appears to be about 20 miles north of Scottsdale. Iconic lists a Scottsdale address on the bottom of their site.

Serious ethical possible legal issues here. "I am offering this item in an open/public auction, however, if I sell it for the price I want on another platform you are stuff out of luck." I may as well list everything I am bringing to The National on ebay starting on the Monday before with a BIN price. If you come to my table and want to purchase it you will need to wait until I check to see if someone purchased it on ebay before I can sell it to you or vice versa.

I actually wouldn't have a problem with the scenario you proposed. I think this is more muddy. So I go out and put a bid on the Mantle on the Iconic site but you hit the BIN on ebay; now what? I'm sure the auction rules state that my bid is binding.

[joed25]

They are the same company. They are constantly putting things in their auction and then relisting them on eBay if they don't get a high enough price.

[Shoeless Moe]

yah good luck ever trying to win something from one of their auctions, the prices are insanely high.

So figuring that would be good to consign to them, they never got back to me after several emails asking to consign some high dollar items.

Very odd for an auction house not to want consigned items.

And with those high prices, definately makes me think something is up there.

[Big Dave]

Perhaps these are not consignments, but actually owned by the auction house. Wouldn't be.the.first auction company to behave in this manner.

[djson1]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

yah good luck ever trying to win something from one of their auctions, the prices are insanely high.

So figuring that would be good to consign to them, they never got back to me after several emails asking to consign some high dollar items.

Very odd for an auction house not to want consigned items.

And with those high prices, definately makes me think something is up there.

When did you write to them? Maybe they're still getting around to it. I once sent them an email about consigning items as well and they took about a month to get back to me. Needless to say, I didn't respond and decided to go to another auction house.

[bender07]

Shady


https://www.iconicmemorabilia.com/Lo...px?lotid=50512

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantl...item3cdfa834d0

[gnaz01]

Similar thing happened to me:

I saw Probstein123 offer an Abraham Lincoln signed military appointment on eBay, and it was GORGEOUS!!!! I emailed him and asked him what he would take for it, and he replied and we agreed so I bought it.

Now here's the rub: when I showed it to my buddy, he said that it had just sold at Premier Auctions a few weeks ago, Lot #1. Weird!! When I got the package, it was shipped to me FROM Premier Auctions!!

So, did the sale not complete, was it shill bid at Premier, etc??

Regardless of the situation, I am EXTREMELY happy to own it, and it is gorgeous!!

Thoughts???

Greg

[bender07]

Originally Posted by bender07

Shady


https://www.iconicmemorabilia.com/Lo...px?lotid=50512

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantl...item3cdfa834d0

Sorry wrong URL from Iconic. Still shady business. I would never purchase from them.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by bender07

I actually wouldn't have a problem with the scenario you proposed. I think this is more muddy. So I go out and put a bid on the Mantle on the Iconic site but you hit the BIN on ebay; now what? I'm sure the auction rules state that my bid is binding.

I would not disagree. Your bid is binding as to your obligation. Think of your scenario in a different way. You enter a bid on the auction, say $697.85 on the last night of bidding. I see it on ebay with a buy it now after you enter your bid. I buy it for $750.00. Your bid is not topped and the auction runs its course. You think you've won the auction and once you pay you will be the proud owner of a nice 'rookie era' Mantle signature. You go to the website and see that your top bid did not reach the 'hidden reserve'. You cannot do much about that. A week later, I am now in possession of MY 'rookie era' Mantle and I post a scan of it in the 'April pickups' on Net54. You see it and say what the *&#$%%. You drop me a nice PM asking about it and I tell you that I purchased it as a buy it now on ebay on April -fill in the date. This is the same day you entered what you thought was your winning bid on the auction site. From my perspective that would suck eggs. And since I own it Nyah, nyah!!!