Is this T206 Sweet Caporal Magee w/bat missing the scroll overstrike..possible scrap?

[Leon]

You might have jinxed yourself, Brian. That being said it is "T206" so it won't die on the vine.. Any of us who have started numerous threads knows the feeling of the sound of crickets.

As for your discovery, I am not a 206 fanatic so will let those guys have at it (if they want to)

[teetwoohsix]

Interesting! Thanks for posting that.

I'll take a stab-maybe it slipped by & should have had the overprint, but they missed it? I have this one but can't tell what is under the overprint. Good catch and cool card! I'm sure someone has a better explanation than mine-

Sincerely, Clayton

[brianp-beme]

Clayton, you may have struck upon a good answer that I hadn't considered, since this Magee is currently grouped in the series that contains the Sweet Cap Overstrike.

Has Magee been found with all the possible backs in its 350/460 group? For example, are there American Beauty, Drum, Sovereign350, SweetCap350, and Peidmont350 cards known (backs which are not present in the 460 series only group)?

Brian

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Clayton, you may have struck upon a good answer that I hadn't considered, since this Magee is currently grouped in the series that contains the Sweet Cap Overstrike.

Has Magee been found with all the possible backs in its 350/460 group? For example, are there American Beauty, Drum, Sovereign350, SweetCap350, and Peidmont350 cards known (backs which are not present in the 460 series only group)?

Brian

First, an answer to your last ? ......Magee (bat) is found with at least 17 different T206 backs (350 & 460).

All the 350/460 series Sweet Caporal 460, Factory 30 cards were overprinted with Factory #42 and shipped to the Durham, NC plant for insertion into Sweet Cap
cigarette packs.
It's my understanding that Sweet Cap 460, Factory 30 cards were not shipped to Factory #30 in NYC.

Of course, your Magee appears to contradict this. Very interesting card you have there....and, I would say a very rare one at that.

Here's an offset Factory #42 overprinted scroll, revealing the original Factory #30 bottom line.




TED Z

[ullmandds]

I think Dick Towle removed the scroll...the card is altered!!!

[iwantitiwinit]

If the missing overstrike is in fact the answer you would think the other cards on the same printed sheet the magee was printed on are also missing that overstrike. Wonder if there are specimens of other players missing the same overstrike though Ted's explanation if correct (and he knows better than I) that Sweet Cap 460, Factory 30 cards were not shipped to Factory #30 in NYC might tell us its not a missing overstrike situation.

[mrvster]

Brian....

Clayton nailed it.......the card looks like it missed the factory over strike design ornate bar and factory 42 designation strike at quality control in production....card is obviously factory cut(altho beat to hell).....and is totally plausible to miss an overstrike( similar to the yellow brown printer scraps with the s.c. 460 f. #30 design).....not sure about how amer litho dealt with the overstrike and shipping???....I haven't read anything on it but interesting Ted....

we see the "missed" strike like Ted showed....I haven't seen any factory issued missing the strike completely ??

these are just my theories....no fact to back it up...