Best offer...pfft!

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by t206hof

Scott, that is fine let them move on. In life sometimes you have to settle, houses, cars, jobs, even women. They should come to realize you cannot always get top prices for their cards simply because They own them. Just like life they will sooner or later learn they need to settle also.

Originally Posted by Runscott

Most of the ones you are looking for (.99 or 9.99 starting auctions) have either moved on, or converted to BIN. I think you are missing that most us who sell, used to do so exactly the way you are asking. Again, fun is fun, but in the end we cannot take a loss and keep doing this.

Asking for people to shill in order to survive under your desired selling scenario, is not a good idea.

I think he is just wants to be able to get deals that he feels that he is missing out on by people selling at straight prices.

I don't like seeing a bunch of cards priced higher than I agree with, but I don't have a problem with it anymore than seeing overpriced cards at card shops and shows.

Not everyone on ebay is there to get a quick sale anymore. There are some people that do it to show off what they have. Some people do it to supplement their webstore. Others are there to sell, but don't need the money quickly so are willing to wait for the right buyer at the right prices. The sellers that just need to sell quickly at any price do exist, but you shouldn't assume every seller on ebay is one of those sellers. Not everyone is sitting there with a "woe is me, why aren't my cards selling quicker?" attitude.

[ksabet]

It's important to remember Ebay's role in this. They have continually shifted there strategy to support a market place as opposed to an auction site. I think they falsely view Amazon as their competition where they really can't compete and should stick to auctions.

If I am not mistaken don't they take a larger cut if an item sells at BIN as opposed to auction?

[edjs]

Slightly off-topic, but why do sellers on e-bay raise the price on items that didn't sell? I have been following one item (auction only with an assigned minimum bid) for about 6 weeks or so, it was doing fine, $79, didn't sell, re-listed for $65, didn't sell, re-listed for $59, didn't sell, now I am thinking "perfect, just what I was wanting to pay for it, about $45-50!" Seller re-listed today, $79! Ugh. I don't know the fair market price (very obscure item, nothing to compare to), I only know what my budget is, and what I am willing to spend on something I like but don't really need. I just don't understand why after lowering the price twice and not selling, then raising the price back up. Can anyone explain this? I understand when sellers re-list at the same price, but why raise a price on something that didn't sell?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by edjs

Slightly off-topic, but why do sellers on e-bay raise the price on items that didn't sell? I have been following one item (auction only with an assigned minimum bid) for about 6 weeks or so, it was doing fine, $79, didn't sell, re-listed for $65, didn't sell, re-listed for $59, didn't sell, now I am thinking "perfect, just what I was wanting to pay for it, about $45-50!" Seller re-listed today, $79! Ugh. I don't know the fair market price (very obscure item, nothing to compare to), I only know what my budget is, and what I am willing to spend on something I like but don't really need. I just don't understand why after lowering the price twice and not selling, then raising the price back up. Can anyone explain this? I understand when sellers re-list at the same price, but why raise a price on something that didn't sell?

$59 might have been the lowest sale point that he is willing to sell and still eek out a profit. No seller wants to break even. Apparently, his break even price is your "BUY" price.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

$59 might have been the lowest sale point that he is willing to sell and still eek out a profit. No seller wants to break even. Apparently, his break even price is your "BUY" price.

You missed the point. After going down to $59, his latest listing is right back at $79. It didn't sell at $59, why raise the price back up to $79?

[glchen]

Originally Posted by edjs

Slightly off-topic, but why do sellers on e-bay raise the price on items that didn't sell? I have been following one item (auction only with an assigned minimum bid) for about 6 weeks or so, it was doing fine, $79, didn't sell, re-listed for $65, didn't sell, re-listed for $59, didn't sell, now I am thinking "perfect, just what I was wanting to pay for it, about $45-50!" Seller re-listed today, $79! Ugh. I don't know the fair market price (very obscure item, nothing to compare to), I only know what my budget is, and what I am willing to spend on something I like but don't really need. I just don't understand why after lowering the price twice and not selling, then raising the price back up. Can anyone explain this? I understand when sellers re-list at the same price, but why raise a price on something that didn't sell?

There are a bunch of different reasons why a seller might raise prices on items that didn't sell. I wouldn't know the specifics for this case, but here are a few possible answers:

(1) Even though this card didn't sell, the seller believes the price for this card is going up. For example, the seller lists this card for sale for $50. It doesn't sell. However, at the same time, this same card in the same condition sells for $60 from another seller like PWCC or Probstein123. Seeing this, the seller raises his price to $60 to match what it recently sold for.

(2) The seller is raising the price so that he can lower it again later. The card price has gone from $70 to $50, but hasn't sold. Rather than drop it to $40, the seller raises it back to $70. Since potential buyers have seen that the card is not going to drop below $50, when the seller lowers the price in the future, the buyer will just grab it at $50.

(3) The seller is pushing for an off-ebay deal. Similar to the last one, the seller has already hinted at what his lowest price is. He has raised the price back up. If you want that lower price, or even lower, contact the seller for an off-ebay transaction.

(4) The seller no longer needs the money. Sometimes, ebay sellers need cash immediately, whether it is to pay off a large purchase they made personally or for the business. They slash the prices on a lot of their ebay inventory, even selling cards for a loss or below what they would usually accept in order to raise cash. However, once they have raised enough funds, they can bring the prices back to their original price.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by glchen

There are a bunch of different reasons why a seller might raise prices on items that didn't sell. I wouldn't know the specifics for this case, but here are a few possible answers:

(1) Even though this card didn't sell, the seller believes the price for this card is going up. For example, the seller lists this card for sale for $50. It doesn't sell. However, at the same time, this same card in the same condition sells for $60 from another seller like PWCC or Probstein123. Seeing this, the seller raises his price to $60 to match what it recently sold for.

(2) The seller is raising the price so that he can lower it again later. The card price has gone from $70 to $50, but hasn't sold. Rather than drop it to $40, the seller raises it back to $70. Since potential buyers have seen that the card is not going to drop below $50, when the seller lowers the price in the future, the buyer will just grab it at $50.

(3) The seller is pushing for an off-ebay deal. Similar to the last one, the seller has already hinted at what his lowest price is. He has raised the price back up. If you want that lower price, or even lower, contact the seller for an off-ebay transaction.

(4) The seller no longer needs the money. Sometimes, ebay sellers need cash immediately, whether it is to pay off a large purchase they made personally or for the business. They slash the prices on a lot of their ebay inventory, even selling cards for a loss or below what they would usually accept in order to raise cash. However, once they have raised enough funds, they can bring the prices back to their original price.

Huh, I guess that is why I'm not in sales for a living. Thanks!

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by edjs

Huh, I guess that is why I'm not in sales for a living. Thanks!

Gary did a better job of explaining it than I did. I was at work, and couldn't go in depth. If you want to get it lower than what it is selling for on Ebay, try looking for the card on different auction sites. Try getting a larger lot of cards that has your card in it. A lot of sellers are tired of subsidizing other peoples good deals. They look long and hard trying to find undervalued gems. Are they not allowed to make a little profit off their work?? You want it for $50 - in my opinion, you should have bought it at $59. $9 is such a small amount to squabble for over a deal, especially since the seller probably has $50 in the card to begin with!