National Game Joe Jackson No Good?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

huh?????? I paid 9k~ for the card I am OUT 1500 due to my flight, hotel, and re grade as I don't mail cards like that.. and beckett wouldn't refund any 'unauthorized' costs on a card. This is UP AND ABOVE the 8870 or whatever it was for the card

Not mailing a card like that isn't the grading companies issue. I wouldn't refund you either for your incidentals. If you need some help on how to ship expensive items give me a call. I will tell you about registered mail and insurance. They work well.

[Rich Klein]

Sean

Were you uncomfortable with mailing in that card and thus wanted to hand deliver to ensure nothing happened to the card before it reached the Beckett office?

Rich

[Sean1125]

It's not that I am uncomfortable ai ship plenty of high dollar packages. I typically fly out to shows to re grade, review etc when I have quite a few cards this particular show happened to be 3 with the ohara being half the value of 3. Even if they didn't do the flight and hotel they refused 100% to refund the grading fees (250) incurred for me to know it was NG. I refused to sign their NDA because of it hence why I can talk about it... sorry for bad grammar working from phone for the past 5 days LOL...

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Sean

Were you uncomfortable with mailing in that card and thus wanted to hand deliver to ensure nothing happened to the card before it reached the Beckett office?

Rich

[Sean1125]

For the record in the past 2 years I have shipped at least 15 registered packages ranging from 10k to 25 (max even though value was above) and not one has been lost. Had a problem with a 13k one going to the Senate office but it ended up just find. It is a personal preference to submit high dollar cards at shows. I am surprised they did not atleast refund rhetoric re grade though. Also the process to actually get the refund was hell. The head guy happened to be out because of a newborn and it took months to get resolution even though I truly believe it shouldn't have taken more than a few days after they offered the refund ( it took over 3 weeks to actually get the check even after they said they were going to send it).... hope no grammar problems again on phone sorry guys!!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Leon

Not mailing a card like that isn't the grading companies issue. I wouldn't refund you either for your incidentals. If you need some help on how to ship expensive items give me a call. I will tell you about registered mail and insurance. They work well.

Last week I mailed a $2800 vintage knife registered priority mail that was supposed to take two days to deliver, we are now on day 6 and it has not been delivered...as of yesterday it showed that it was in Chicago, but they could not tell me where it actually was. The buyer also tried to track it down yesterday with no luck...Today it is showing as "out for delivery"...In Vermont. I don't think there is any excuse for the Post Office to treat registered mail this way.

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Last week I mailed a $2800 vintage knife registered priority mail that was supposed to take two days to deliver, we are now on day 6 and it has not been delivered...as of yesterday it showed that it was in Chicago, but they could not tell me where it actually was. The buyer also tried to track it down yesterday with no luck...Today it is showing as "out for delivery"...In Vermont. I don't think there is any excuse for the Post Office to treat registered mail this way.

Every registered package I've sent or received has been like this; tracking only shows accepted and no interim stops. But it always gets delivered, it does usually take up to 7 or 8 business days. It is the safest and most secure way to ship by far. I've never heard of a registered package getting lost, although I'm sure it's happened. I would assume anyone receiving registered mail would expect a delay.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

Every registered package I've sent or received has been like this; tracking only shows accepted and no interim stops. But it always gets delivered, it does usually take up to 7 or 8 business days. It is the safest and most secure way to ship by far. I've never heard of a registered package getting lost, although I'm sure it's happened. I would assume anyone receiving registered mail would expect a delay.

I did not know this...I've only sent registered mail twice..the first was by request from a Net54er who bought a couple grand worth of stuff from me and it was delivered in 24 hours from Lincoln to Boston. This is only the second time and I was assured by the USPS worker at the counter it would take two days. The fact that no one could tell me where it was yesterday (the 5th day) was a bit concerning...especially since ebay automatically opened a case against me when the buyer asked me where it was.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Leon

Not mailing a card like that isn't the grading companies issue. I wouldn't refund you either for your incidentals. If you need some help on how to ship expensive items give me a call. I will tell you about registered mail and insurance. They work well.

+ 1, mailed all sorts of cards T206 Planks, BL460s etc. etc. etc.

Not cheap you're going to pay 200-500$ bucks to ship an insure for overnight delivery but that has to be cheaper than airfare, hotel and time on the road.......I too would not expect the TPG to refund me for that.

Cheers,

John

[Peter_Spaeth]

The odds of anything going wrong with a registered mail shipment (except perhaps a slight delay) are infinitesimally small, in my opinion.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The odds of anything going wrong with a registered mail shipment (except perhaps a slight delay) are infinitesimally small, in my opinion.

I hope you're right, and I hope it really is out for delivery today, but it doesn't ease my mind that no one could tell me where my registered package was yesterday.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I hope you're right, and I hope it really is out for delivery today, but it doesn't ease my mind that no one could tell me where my registered package was yesterday.

I've run into the same thing with registered mail, but I know they keep the registered packages locked up separate from all the other mail, and anyone who touches it has to sign something.

So my question: is it safe to send registered mail uninsured, provided your packaging is super-safe?

[danmckee]

I stopped using registered mail when I had a package ripped open by a postal employee and the contents removed and the package delivered empty.

I know registered is signed for by everyone who touches but the PO just paid the claim and no investigation.

A small light package with a large value label displayed is enticing a postal worker by telling him something expensive is inside.

I just sent a $2K card cross country, First Class signature confirmation. Cost me $4. I do that all of the time since my incident 12 years ago.

The PO works well when you do not entice their employees with big dollar labels.

Dan

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I've run into the same thing with registered mail, but I know they keep the registered packages locked up separate from all the other mail, and anyone who touches it has to sign something.

So my question: is it safe to send registered mail uninsured, provided your packaging is super-safe?

I think the answer is yes it is ok without insurance (I am not advocating just giving an opinion). As was mentioned USPS Registered mail is locked up and signed for at every step. If one of those gets lost get ready for some serious investigating from Postal Agents. That being said many times, because of the extra steps, it does take longer to get to the recipient. From my understanding Registered mail is the way many diamond shipments are shipped too.

Edited to add, I just saw Dan's post. If the PO paid a claim for a lost package then that is all anyone can expect. And I agree, I bet the lost registered mail pile is very, very small.

For me personally, I ship expensive things over night and hold my breath till it's received.

[barrysloate]

I've sent a few thousand registered packages over my 25 years in the hobby and never had a single one lost. Sometimes they do take a little longer but they arrive 100% of the time. And the cost of sending a 9K package fully insured is around $25-30.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think the answer is yes it is ok without insurance (I am not advocating just giving an opinion). As was mentioned USPS Registered mail is locked up and signed for at every step. If one of those gets lost get ready for some serious investigating from Postal Agents. That being said many times, because of the extra steps, it does take longer to get to the recipient. From my understanding Registered mail is the way many diamond shipments are shipped too.

Edited to add, I just saw Dan's post. If the PO paid a claim for a lost package then that is all anyone can expect. And I agree, I bet the lost registered mail pile is very, very small.

For me personally, I ship expensive things over night and hold my breath till it's received.

Ha! I used to hold my breath as well!

Then I just got comfortable with them doing their job

I think I still have a picture of the box somewhere, looking for it now.

Funny thing was that there was about $6K worth of Wacky Package Stickers in it at the time I think.