T206 HOF Candidates

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

LOL, that dream ended in 1946 and its a tired argument. Dahlen would bring up the quality of the hall, particularly at SS, not decrease it. That is also true for many others, such as Magee, against whom the same argument is made.

Here is my argument against Magee. 1951 was plenty of time to judge him, and his .291 batting average.

Hall of Fame
1937 BBWAA ( 1.0%)
1938 BBWAA ( 0.8%)
1939 BBWAA ( 0.4%)
1942 BBWAA ( 0.4%)
1945 BBWAA ( 0.4%)
1946 Nominating Vote ( 0.5%)
1950 BBWAA ( 0.6%)
1951 BBWAA ( 0.9%)

But let me add this, for context.

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EDIT TO ADD I wouldn't vote for Dahlen, but given his ranking as the 10th best SS under the JAWS system, it at least wouldn't be a joke.

[CMIZ5290]

Ed Reulbach is another pitcher that should definitely be in the Hall.... Would love to see comparable stats between him and 3 Finger Brown....Does anyone have those handy?

[wonkaticket]

Dahlen & Rucker....or any other common I own with a tougher back would be ok by me too.

[bundy462]

When/if Dahlen gets in, which seems likely, what does that do to the price of his Brooklyn T206 card? Opinions?

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by bundy462

When/if Dahlen gets in, which seems likely, what does that do to the price of his Brooklyn T206 card? Opinions?

Can't imagine it getting much higher. Just my 2 cents....

[Bpm0014]

Reulbach 182-106 2.28
Three Finger Brown 239-130 2.06

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

Reulbach 182-106 2.28
Three Finger Brown 239-130 2.06

Brendan, thanks a lot. Any stats on K's vs. BB's?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Cmon.


Hall Of Fame Statistics

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Black Ink Pitching - 13 (172), Average HOFer ≈ 40

Gray Ink Pitching - 123 (149), Average HOFer ≈ 185

Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 101 (98), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 44 (54), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Starting Pitcher (197th), 36.6 career WAR/32.3 7yr-peak WAR/34.5 JAWS
Average HOF P (out of 57) = 72.6 career WAR/50.2 7yr-peak WAR/61.4 JAWS

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Cmon.


Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)


Black Ink Pitching - 13 (172), Average HOFer ≈ 40

Gray Ink Pitching - 123 (149), Average HOFer ≈ 185

Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 101 (98), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 44 (54), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Starting Pitcher (197th), 36.6 career WAR/32.3 7yr-peak WAR/34.5 JAWS
Average HOF P (out of 57) = 72.6 career WAR/50.2 7yr-peak WAR/61.4 JAWS

Peter- thanks for the info and stats...So how in the hell does Eppa Rixey get in the Hall??