What's the real deal with these Cuban cards?

[Scocs]

I now kinda wished I hadn't opened up this can of worms....

[mannybb24]

Ummmm okay, so I apologized to these guys and tried being really nice to them but now they're mad at me for what now?

[mannybb24]

I guess I can't have an opinion or have the slightest doubt about these cards, my bad.

That's okay that they blocked me if they feel the need to do so, I think I'll survive.

Too bad they think I'm such a bad guy though...........

[ernestohur68]

I just called to Ernesto to told him about it.It is so tired, every day new things about the cards.
It should be easier.
My name is Victor Martinez Jr.I growth looking to my father selling/buying cuban stuff.This world is awesome.
My father bought some years ago Cuban Card well known as Polar ,He listed these on ebay,some people said that they were fake ,even Rolando and it was true,my father accepted it and sold all of them as fake.Later, He bought the biggest lot of Cuban card that I saw in my life with Punch,Billiken,etc, he sold all of them on ebay in great prices.I hope some of you remember that.I would like to say that we are dealers, we are humans,nothing is absolute in collection world, but we have good intentions, we do not do fake cards, please do not say that because is false and not intelligent.We want this world be clean ,is better for us.
When we bought these romeo and julieta card did an small party celebrating this business,because cuban card is one of the best things in cuban stuff.We had to pay good prices and competition is strong like everywhere for find good items.I feel bad with that situation.I do not expected that!!
I guaranteed these card are original,unfortunately you can see these in your hands.I am pretty sure if you could see these will not have any doubt.
Ryan el cabron, please do not threatens we born in CUBA we are used to the worse.Please is funny!!
Best regards,
Victor

[Scocs]

Well, it's pretty strange that Steve apoligizes to Ernesto/Victor, gets insulted and blocked from bidding on the cards in question on Ebay -- now I just checked the Ebay listing and Steve is listed on the site and thanked for actually apologizing in the first place!

Is this a language thing or a bizarre reality thing?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Scocs

Well, it's pretty strange that Steve apoligizes to Ernesto/Victor, gets insulted and blocked from bidding on the cards in question on Ebay -- now I just checked the Ebay listing and Steve is listed on the site and thanked for actually apologizing in the first place!

Is this a language thing or a bizarre reality thing?

I pick bizarre reality. I know every time the seller posts I have a lot less faith that they are real because of their posts. For full disclosure I know nothing about Cuban cards.

[ernestohur68]

J...............Games
V...............at bat
C...............runs
H...............hits
Fielding
A...............assists
E................errors

[ernestohur68]

For some of you this is a game, for us is our world,business, and the way to get a plate of food for the table.For this reason is sad to hear that people who know nothing of baseball say are fake.Anyway,The world is free and everybody can tell what you want.

[ElCabron]

Okay Ernesto, you asked for it. I don't have time right now, but I have A LOT more to say about these cards and their seller. Like "Ana," running your mouth is showing everyone more about who you are than any person you choose to attack. I was going to post more about these anyway, but now you've brought out the cabrón in me and I will be less delicate in how I speak about you.

And by the way, I have no problem calling Rolando the leading authority on Cuban baseball cards because (A) He is Cuban and lives in Cuba, and (B) He has had more cards go through his hands than me. I never said he knows more about Cuban baseball cards than me, because I don't believe that's the case. There are several card issues that I know about and have in my personal collection that he has never seen or heard of before. He has not been my only source for Cuban baseball cards. Rolando is an expert and it is disappointing to me that he has gotten dragged into this because of you, Ernesto. Or "Ana." Or whatever alias or new eBay ID you are using today.

Later, I'll post a link to thread about some fake cards similar to these that I believe you may have been involved with. I busted the scam here on Net54 and was called all kinds of names and had plenty of accusations made against me, none of which were true. I can't find the thread right now, but trust me, I will.

From now on, Ernesto, don't call me Ryan. You call me Pinche Cabrón.

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by ElCabron

Okay Ernesto, you asked for it. I don't have time right now, but I have A LOT more to say about these cards and their seller. Like "Ana," running your mouth is showing everyone more about who you are than any person you choose to attack. I was going to post more about these anyway, but now you've brought out the cabrón in me and I will be less delicate in how I speak about you.

And by the way, I have no problem calling Rolando the leading authority on Cuban baseball cards because (A) He is Cuban and lives in Cuba, and (B) He has had more cards go through his hands than me. I never said he knows more about Cuban baseball cards than me, because I don't believe that's the case. There are several card issues that I know about and have in my personal collection that he has never seen or heard of before. He has not been my only source for Cuban baseball cards. Rolando is an expert and it is disappointing to me that he has gotten dragged into this because of you, Ernesto. Or "Ana." Or whatever alias or new eBay ID you are using today.

Later, I'll post a link to thread about some fake cards similar to these that I believe you may have been involved with. I busted the scam here on Net54 and was called all kinds of names and had plenty of accusations made against me, none of which were true. I can't find the thread right now, but trust me, I will.

From now on, Ernesto, don't call me Ryan. You call me Pinche Cabrón.

I think I remember the thread Ryan is talking about. I hope he can locate it in the archives. I seem to remember a thread about fake Cuban cards and I believe they had black borders.