Info Checklist for 1960/61 Pirates Horne's Department Store Set

[hcv123]

Hi Fred,

I have or have seen a couple of other Horne's Pirates related items, but do not recall ever seeing anything like the photo you posted. I would be very excited to see a copy of the Clemente - who/how is it that Clemente is on the checklist? Thanks.

-Howard

[quitcrab]

Oh Boy.. Howard may be missing a Clemente card. I would love to see a scan of the issue if anyone has it.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by hcv123

Hi Fred,

I have or have seen a couple of other Horne's Pirates related items, but do not recall ever seeing anything like the photo you posted. I would be very excited to see a copy of the Clemente - who/how is it that Clemente is on the checklist? Thanks.

-Howard

Hi Howard:

I am starting my quest for info on this set here on Net54 and elsewhere. A knowledgeable collector who grew up in the area at the time has a few of these and has looked for more of them over the years. He recalls seeing a Clemente that was autographed, assuming from the personal appearance at the Department store. It was offered, he can't recall where, he says perhaps ebay years ago. He tells me it was too rich for his blood so he let it go. But he is sure the pose was that of the Clemente on the Exhibit card which was one of the normal team issued poses used for the rest of the seen Horne's.

I spoke today with another Clemente collector you may know from Delaware who has a massive Clemente collection and he does not have one nor ever seen one or was aware of it's existance.

I may also be able to obtain an in store Poster from Hornes advertising the siginings. I am waiting to hear on that. I am told from memory that it does not show individual players, but rather a boy kneeling at his bedside praying that his favorite Pirate will appear at the store so he can get the players autograph. It may have a Pirates logo I am told, but the owner is not sure until he digs it out. It came from an ex Horne's employee.

The checklist I posted earlier is all I have now. Will update as I get more info.

Fred

[sflayank]

the in store poster is 28 players recently sold on ebay for $27
does include clemente
the bob friend is omn ebay 1958 BIN $99

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by sflayank

the in store poster is 28 players recently sold on ebay for $27
does include clemente
the bob friend is omn ebay 1958 BIN $99

Lary:

Please post links for both.

Thanks,

Fred

[DaClyde]

There were Joseph Horne Co. ads in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette for the appearances. Luckily that's one of the papers Google has in their newspaper archive:

http://news.google.com/newspapers

September 15, 1960, on page 19, the ad says Clemente, Dick Stuart, Bill Mazeroski and Smoky Burgess were to appear. Should just take an hour or two to dig out all the appearance notices to build complete checklists (barring any missing issues of the newspaper).

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by DaClyde

There were Joseph Horne Co. ads in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette for the appearances. Luckily that's one of the papers Google has in their newspaper archive:

http://news.google.com/newspapers

September 15, 1960, on page 19, the ad says Clemente, Dick Stuart, Bill Mazeroski and Smoky Burgess were to appear. Should just take an hour or two to dig out all the appearance notices to build complete checklists (barring any missing issues of the newspaper).

Hi Jason:

THANKS!! A GREAT reference! never knew this existed. Now I get to spend MORE HOURS in front of the computer!

Fred

[DaClyde]

Well, so far, this has been a bust for 1960. Aside from the two ads for the Sept 15th appearance (one on the 14th, and one on the 15th), I've gone through two months worth and not found another ad for a Horne's appearance. Did find one for an appearance by Burgess and Hoak at Kaufmann's, but no mention of photos.

[hcv123]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Sports-Mem-C...H_Sold=1&rt=nc


Looks like a bunch of these (see above link) sold recently on ebay including the one Larry referenced. I have a couple of copies of that Horne's booster club team composite. I don't believe that indicates it in any way is a "checklist" of appearances.

Cross referencing the ad from the post gazette September 15th 1960 (That newspaper archive is INCREDIBLE!) indicating that Clemente, Stuart, Burgess and Maz were appearing that day with the Stuart and Burgess photos that sold on ebay and have Sept 15 dating on them would seem to be strong evidence that a Maz and Clemente exist as well!

Other dates from the other players that sold include:

Groat - May 26, 1960 (no papers available from archive for that date)
Skinner May26, 1960

Groat April 17, 1961 See ad from newspaper archive:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...rontpage&hl=en

Cool - It's been a LONG time since I've been able to add something to my want list.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by sflayank

the in store poster is 28 players recently sold on ebay for $27
does include clemente
the bob friend is omn ebay 1958 BIN $99

Thanks Larry. I found the listings.

However the Friend you note is an 8x10 B&W glossy while the ones I referenced are smaller, and not glossy.

Fred