Buyer Beware these auctions

[t206trader]

Originally Posted by charnick

just looked at two of the them, the gibson and the rose, and both are FAKE. typeface on the PSA label is a dead giveaway. reported. and yet, the jordan flip appears real.

I agree with Charnick on this one. If you compare the slabs with other authentic PSA slabs you'll notice that the typeface on the "P"s in Topps look a bit different. Almost as if the oval part of the P is smaller/scrunched up. Other than that the slabs are pretty close. It seems far too coincidental that both of these cards exhibit the same atypical pattern in the P. When you consider this and the seller's relatively low feedback, I'd err on the side of caution and stay away.

[bn2cardz]

The barcode on the Gibson (the only one I looked at) is wrong
From ebay auction:

From cardtarget:

[t206trader]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

The barcode on the Gibson (the only one I looked at) is wrong
From ebay auction:

From cardtarget:

That pretty much settles it. Not even the PSA logo at the top is the same. Clearly a printed slab. I knew something was fishy as soon as I saw the label.

[nolemmings]

The fact that the Mantle rookie and the Tinker Uzit are ungraded is telling. Also, I'm no expert on T206s, but the Uzit looks re-backed to me.

For a seller named premier cards, he has almost all his feedback selling women's clothing and accessories. Odd.

Edited to add : The gibsons are clearly two different flips-- the grade "Mint 9" is on two lines of one flip and a single line on the other.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

The fact that the Mantle rookie and the Tinker Uzit are ungraded is telling. Also, I'm no expert on T206s, but the Uzit looks re-backed to me.

For a seller named premier cards, he has almost all his feedback selling women's clothing and accessories. Odd.

Edited to add : The gibsons are clearly two different flips-- the grade "Mint 9" is on two lines of one flip and a single line on the other.

Agreed on the Mantle and Tinker and the Uzit looks rebacked to me as well.

On the Gibson, if it is legit, it's possible it was re-slabbed. There is a huge scratch on the older one. If it were mine, I would have paid the $5 (or whatever the fee) to have it re-slabbed.

[t206trader]

It's for sure a fake slab. Here are the Pete Rose's for comparison. One on the left was sold by Memory Lane, just like the Gibson Those aren't the same cards or even the same barcodes...

[bn2cardz]

The Gibson bar code on the fake would read as 99eee70e (e = error, no number found for this section) The Jordan's barcode is correct, but given two fakes I am sure that one doesn't stand a chance.

[yankees23]

Originally Posted by t206trader

It's for sure a fake slab. Here are the Pete Rose's for comparison. One on the left was sold by Memory Lane, just like the Gibson Those aren't the same cards or even the same barcodes...

Curious how you were able to track down the real Rose? There is no barcode database with pics is there? Would be nice if there was...although that might lead to even more fraud

[t206trader]

Originally Posted by yankees23

Curious how you were able to track down the real Rose? There is no barcode database with pics is there? Would be nice if there was...although that might lead to even more fraud

I just Cardtarget.com'ed 1964 Topps Pete Rose in PSA 9. It seems this seller typically uses past Memory Lane auctions so that was the first one I clicked on and Voila, fake confirmed.

[iwantitiwinit]

This is not going to end well. Thanks for the info.

[yankees23]

Originally Posted by t206trader

I just Cardtarget.com'ed 1964 Topps Pete Rose in PSA 9. It seems this seller typically uses past Memory Lane auctions so that was the first one I clicked on and Voila, fake confirmed.

Ah, that's what I figured. Scary

[conor912]

The top edge on the back of the Mantle flares up on the right side.

It blows me away what people will bid on a "mint" raw card from a seller with 108 feedback and a No Returns policy. That is just straight up delusional.