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Old 02-28-2014, 09:41 AM
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Ted- In the first post I think you meant factory 649OP rather than factory 30.
I said SWEET CAPORAL 150 Factory's #30 & #25....and, that's exactly what I meant. These are the only 2 factory's that the Wagner and Plank were shipped to,
to be issued in cigarette packs.

The SC 150 Factory #649 subjects are important, in that they serve the purpose of clueing us as to what subjects were printed in this early SC 150 series format.
Remember, prior to the overprints on these cards, they were initially printed with SC 150 Factory #30 backs.


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1)Plank like Wagner was printed assuming permission would eventually happen. Both players never gave permission, and both were pulled. Maybe Wagner was more likely to sue, maybe Plank was a bit more open to compromise. Either way, Wagner was pulled completely,

Plank allowed existing cards to be sold but not around Philadelphia.
I brought this up recently, since his SC 350 cards are only out of Factory #30 NYC. The regional distribution from this factory of these Sweet Cap packs was limited
to New York and New England.

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1a) Perhaps Plank had an agreement with another company like American Caramel that was limited to the Philadelphia area.

2c) He didn't realize he'd been included without his approval until later.

2d) His agreement with American Caramel would begin for 1910 and was exclusive. and his agreement with ALC or ATC was vague about how long his image could be used. so he couldn't be in the 350 series.

3) There was a conflict between ATC and Philadelphia caramel over the image used. That image is only in a few sets, T206, E95, and E107. E107s were too early, But E95 and T206 coincide. (There may be other sets, that I've missed)
Steve B

I posted a 2 threads on this forum in 2006 and 2007 spelling out exactly this. Here is the link to one of them......
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...6+plank+theory

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