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Old 02-26-2014, 12:45 PM
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I don't know if morality would come into play unless you are positive the items are forged. But we all have items which might be authentic but they just aren't exemplar. And, if you state so in the listing, is there still a morality issue? You're basically just letting the buyer make the ultimate decision. Like I stated, I recently bought something even though the seller thought it was secretarial, but I was pretty sure it was authentic.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:54 PM
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I personally rip them up but if you boldly stated you think there is a good chance it isn't real and even put it in the title I guess it is OK. But is it gets hidden within the description and people could easily miss it- then it would be wrong.
I bought a Ruth that looked good but when I got it was an obvious photocopy. The description made it sould like it could be a copy but downplayed it so it sounded like it wasn't. I had to complain to ebay and then made the guy refund the $ but it was a hassle.
If you state it is probably fake you will get very few bids so might as well trash it
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I don't think you should do it since the evidence strongly points to the item not being authentic. However, if you think there is still a reasonably good chance it may be genuine, then I think you must offer the buyer a very generous return policy, like a lifetime, no questions asked, return policy. Therefore, if the customer ever decides in the future to have their own experts that they trust review the item and decide they don't like it, they can return it whenever they want, even years into the future.
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I don't think you should do it since the evidence strongly points to the item not being authentic. However, if you think there is still a reasonably good chance it may be genuine, then I think you must offer the buyer a very generous return policy, like a lifetime, no questions asked, return policy. Therefore, if the customer ever decides in the future to have their own experts that they trust review the item and decide they don't like it, they can return it whenever they want, even years into the future.
I am of the opinion that if you are 100% honest and transparent then you can sell anything. So if you think there is a 75% chance something isn't good, and clearly state it, then it's ok. As long as someone knows exactly what they are buying then I have no issue selling it. To each their own though.....BTW, I think there would be as many differing opinions on this as there are members on the board.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:25 PM
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Hi Leon, I know what you're saying, but I guess I've seen too many fake Ruth cards sold on ebay with some kind of description stating that the seller took it to some hobby store where the owner said it was authentic, but others have said it may not be authentic or other cases where the seller said it may or may not be good, and it's up to the buyer to decide. And these sellers always have a no returns accepted policy, and even when you send a message to the seller saying the card is no good, they don't change or take down the listing (and reporting to ebay does not work either).
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Hi Leon, I know what you're saying, but I guess I've seen too many fake Ruth cards sold on ebay with some kind of description stating that the seller took it to some hobby store where the owner said it was authentic, but others have said it may not be authentic or other cases where the seller said it may or may not be good, and it's up to the buyer to decide. And these sellers always have a no returns accepted policy, and even when you send a message to the seller saying the card is no good, they don't change or take down the listing (and reporting to ebay does not work either).
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I am right with you on this. But I have seen people say something is FAKE or a REPRINT and then people still bid like no tomorrow. I told myself a long time ago that I won't help protect stupidity. If I say something is fake and someone buys it thinking it's real, more power to them. I don't think I did anything wrong. And since we are on Ruth, here is one that would be hard to authenticate....but has been done to my satisfaction.
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....BTW, I think there would be as many differing opinions on this as there are members on the board.
Some good feedback on here. I think Leon was spot on about the differing opinions. I, myself, have differing opinions on the matter.
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If in doubt take the high road.
Chalk up any losses that may occur as a result to be the cost of becoming a better educated collector. We all have been there, BTW.

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