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Old 02-25-2014, 01:01 PM
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AMAZON is at $145.00

The recent one that I missed on ebay sold Feb 9th (long after I had put it as a saved search) for 29.99.

Prior ebay sales:
Dec 14 - $32.99

Dec 12 (along with 2 other books) - $35

So I will be patient. For $145 I could buy a few photos from reputable sellers (Like RMY) and learn through experience instead.
They usually run between $30-45 on eBay when they turn up. They don't usually turn up that often though. I would say maybe once every 2-3 months on average? If I ever see one under $30, I buy it whether I currently have a copy or not, so if you want one cheaper than that, you'll have to catch it before I do If I didn't already have a copy, I wouldn't have any problem spending $50 for one. I do agree $145 is a bit steep though unless you need the info right now or are too lazy to keep watch for a cheaper copy.

(FWIW, I'm not sitting on a hoard of these. I just think that the book is a very good all-around reference for new collectors of sports photography, and they make great gifts, which is why I'm not sitting on a pile of them.)
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They usually run between $30-45 on eBay when they turn up. They don't usually turn up that often though. I would say maybe once every 2-3 months on average? If I ever see one under $30, I buy it whether I currently have a copy or not, so if you want one cheaper than that, you'll have to catch it before I do If I didn't already have a copy, I wouldn't have any problem spending $50 for one. I do agree $145 is a bit steep though unless you need the info right now or are too lazy to keep watch for a cheaper copy.

(FWIW, I'm not sitting on a hoard of these. I just think that the book is a very good all-around reference for new collectors of sports photography, and they make great gifts, which is why I'm not sitting on a pile of them.)
Great my birthday is Sept 4. Or if you want to do it a baby gift our child is due July 8th. I can give you my address. I am looking forward to this gift.

I have been slowly reading through Cycleback.com.

Sorry that I hijacked this thread slightly from the original intent about cleaning or not cleaning the photo. I was just reading through and your photos just brought up some questions.
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Great my birthday is Sept 4. Or if you want to do it a baby gift our child is due July 8th. I can give you my address. I am looking forward to this gift.
Somehow I knew that was coming...
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They usually run between $30-45 on eBay when they turn up. They don't usually turn up that often though. I would say maybe once every 2-3 months on average? If I ever see one under $30, I buy it whether I currently have a copy or not, so if you want one cheaper than that, you'll have to catch it before I do If I didn't already have a copy, I wouldn't have any problem spending $50 for one. I do agree $145 is a bit steep though unless you need the info right now or are too lazy to keep watch for a cheaper copy.

(FWIW, I'm not sitting on a hoard of these. I just think that the book is a very good all-around reference for new collectors of sports photography, and they make great gifts, which is why I'm not sitting on a pile of them.)
Oh, Lance, sure you're not hoarding them.
I know you're trying to corner the market on these bad boys. This reminds me of the Hunt Brothers trying to corner the silver market in the 1980's.
That worked out pretty well for them. LOL
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for my 2 cents, or 50 dollars i would much rather have a reference or historical book than an authentication for a single photo.
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Dang Mark!!!!


Congrats!!!! What a beauty!!

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Wow. Great thread guys. I've been busy at work, so I haven't gotten to reply until now. I want to thank all of you for the congrats and the advice.

This photo sold in Henry's last auction for $630 or so. Joey was kind enough to make it available to me for a small profit, that I was happy to pay. I think Ben brought up something that I hadn't considered in detail and that is the cost of repairs. Obviously, it would be foolish to spend another $1k to remove the tape and clean it a little. I guess I was figuring it wasn't going to cost that much, so price wouldn't be a significant issue.

It doesn't surprise me that there are more of these signed than not. I think it is likely that a higher percentage of Burke's sales were to the players than to the casual fan. I can definitely see Gehrig, Ruth, or even Christy Walsh ordering these to have signed and give out as gifts to friends and business associates. I think that probably far fewer were ordered by the casual fan to hang on their wall.

I am curious as to the size of Ben's prints. I say this as his seem much more rectangular than either mine or Al's copy. Certainly the more vertical rectangular shape would explain why Ben's copies have much more of the whole photo at the top and bottom. Perhaps, Burke decided to crop it down on the bigger prints to increase the focus on the face. Perhaps some of these different crops came at the request of the ordering player?

Thanks to all who have contributed so far and I hope more info continues to be added.

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Mark, the smaller ones I owned that show the heavy silver halide hints are 5x7.

This is probably in Burke's book, but the players had their favorite photos that Burke took, and they would order them from him. So the ones that you see most often may not be the best Burke image in our opinion, but it was to the players.
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for my 2 cents, or 50 dollars i would much rather have a reference or historical book than an authentication for a single photo.
That is the wisest thing I have read in this forum in a long time - nicely put!

Years before the Yee/Fogel book was written, I purchased hardcopies of ALL of David's books and studied them intently. Later, I was lucky enough to meet David and we have shared photos/thoughts for many years now.

I haven't read the Yee/Fogel book, but based on what others have said (and especially Ben, as I very highly respect his opinion), my thinking is that if you ('you' being anyone who reads this post) got hold of that book, read David's books and continue to read the posts on this forum and handle a lot of vintage photos yourself, you are going to be just fine.

I also feel certain that a copy of the Yee/Fogel book would help me personally, and if I had one I would certainly spend hours studying the material. But I haven't needed to, so I haven't looked for a copy.
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