PSA grade head scratcher

[LKeeler]

Originally Posted by Moonlight Graham

Luke, I know you wanted the whole set to be PSA graded, but I have to ask: why didn't you just send it in the SGC slab and go for a crossover? I know PSA may not have given it to you but then at the very least you would have been stuck with that beautiful 4 in a SGC slab, which, in my opinion looks really sharp. But I am sorry that it didn't work out for you and hopefully no damage was done to your card.
Joe

Hi Joe. Yep, you are right. I typically send them in slabbed for a crossover, and the one time I didn't (on a high dollar card), BOOM! Right in the kisser. I was just certain it would come back at least a 4 as all my other Dockmans came back higher grade from PSA than when they left SGC (now I am really sounding like a Russian Roulette player!) Not to bring up a different debate on the board :-) but every time I have sent in a slabbed card to a different grader for a crossover, that grader wants to be "tough" and "the more stricter company" and the minimum grade (always the existing grade in place) is never met; as if they were wanting to prove a point. That just further makes the grading game frustrating, but at least it makes for constant conversation!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by LKeeler

Every time I have sent in a slabbed card to a different grader for a crossover, that grader wants to be "tough" and "the more stricter company" and the minimum grade (always the existing grade in place) is never met; as if they were wanting to prove a point.

My experience has been just the opposite with respect to PSA -> SGC crossovers. Some of my best PSA 4s have become SGC 60s. I never crack them out for just the reason you are experiencing in this case.

PSA and SGC grade caramels very differently, in my opinion. I suspect the PSA grader saw something like minor chipping or paper loss that the SGC folks recognize is typical of E92s and don't treat as strictly.

[Sean1125]

I always review 2-3 times in the current holder before cracking. When stuff like this happens cost still ends up being roughly the same.

[sycks22]

If you call up or e-mail PSA they won't give you an explanation on why the card didn't cross or why it got a 2. I've tried numerous times and they keep telling me that's now how they do business.

[ullmandds]

Bummer...definitely a head scratcher to me?! PSA just wants more of your money...that's all!

[jhs5120]

I don't think there was any damaged caused in transit or cracking. In my experience PSA is very strict on diamond cut/miscut cards, while SGC seems very lenient. I agree it isn't a "2", but I'm not surprised PSA docked you a couple points for it. I had an E92 with a similar cut get rejected by PSA 3 times before they eventually slabbed it.

It's a crap shoot.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I don't think there was any damaged caused in transit or cracking. In my experience PSA is very strict on diamond cut/miscut cards, while SGC seems very lenient. I agree it isn't a "2", but I'm not surprised PSA docked you a couple points for it. I had an E92 with a similar cut get rejected by PSA 3 times before they eventually slabbed it.



It's a crap shoot.

Sounds like you should just resubmit the card a few times.


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[ullmandds]

[QUOTE=I Only Smoke 4 the Cards;1243241]Sounds like you should just resubmit the card a few times.


Pretty much!!! If you're going to participate in the "game"...what choice do you have but to keep playing!

[LKeeler]

Thanks guys! I agree totally. I hate to fudge up the pop reports, but I guess I will continue to play the game

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by LKeeler

Thanks guys! I agree totally. I hate to fudge up the pop reports, but I guess I will continue to play the game

You crack the card out of one holder and then state that you hate to fudge up the pop reports. Can you spell hypocrisy? Have you told the guy with the SGC 40 Wagner that your SGC 50 copy no longer exists? I doubt it.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by LKeeler

all my other Dockmans came back higher grade from PSA than when they left SGC

When you call about this card and ask for compensation you must also demand why the others graded higher and give them back some cash in return.

[LKeeler]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

When you call about this card and ask for compensation you must also demand why the others graded higher and give them back some cash in return.

Yeah David, I think you may be right. Sure appreciate all the opinions. Definitely appreciate all of the insight!

[ullmandds]

Wow...PSA usually doesn't see paper loss...let alone that small? MAybe they got their graders' eyes checked for x-mas this year?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

When you call about this card and ask for compensation you must also demand why the others graded higher and give them back some cash in return.

LOL Best post in the whole thread.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

When you call about this card and ask for compensation you must also demand why the others graded higher and give them back some cash in return.

This is almost funny.


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