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Old 02-14-2014, 12:13 PM
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I am going to tell them NO. Is it ok if I cut and paste your message above? If they want to be in the sports memorabilia business they should join the fight with us....
Please do, Leon.

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Old 02-14-2014, 12:33 PM
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Good for you Leon!
Steiner is part of what is wrong with our hobby.
They are pricing the kids out and once we are done collecting where will the hobby be?

$300 for a Jeter or Maddox ball- like they need the extra $$$$

Charlie.
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:24 PM
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Good for you Leon!
Steiner is part of what is wrong with our hobby.
They are pricing the kids out and once we are done collecting where will the hobby be?

$300 for a Jeter or Maddox ball- like they need the extra $$$$

Charlie.
Not to mention they can't seem to purchase ink pens that don't disappear in front of your eyes on single signed 500.00 balls......F them
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:36 PM
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Please do, Leon.

Thank you.
Thanks Chris. Here is the message I just sent them...


"Hi Ann
I run a forum of extremely avid collectors. We look out for the hobby a lot. I personally have helped the Secret Service, FBI, Postal Inspector and Dept. Of Homeland Security, over the last year in rooting out fraud. Unfortunately it seems Steiner is only out for the money. Here is a message you might pass on, if anyone caresナI cut and pasted it from my forum, and it is from Christopher Williams, who helps the hobby a ton.

"For years I tried to get Steiner Sports (Brandon Steiner) to help fight autograph fraud in the hobby. I must have emailed Steiner Sports over a dozen times about certain issues.

I remember two years ago I emailed Steiner Sports about a website that was selling over 100 Derek Jeter forgeries. The forgeries were the GAI (Steve Sipe) certed forgeries. There I as going out of my way to protect the interests of Steiner Sports and nothing, and now they want to advertise their over-priced items here!!!

I vote "No."

The heck with them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








So with that being said I will respectfully decline working with Steiner until Steiner proves they help more than their pockets.
Thanks
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:38 PM
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Thanks Chris. Here is the message I just sent them...


"Hi Ann
I run a forum of extremely avid collectors. We look out for the hobby a lot. I personally have helped the Secret Service, FBI, Postal Inspector and Dept. Of Homeland Security, over the last year in rooting out fraud. Unfortunately it seems Steiner is only out for the money. Here is a message you might pass on, if anyone caresナI cut and pasted it from my forum, and it is from Christopher Williams, who helps the hobby a ton.

"For years I tried to get Steiner Sports (Brandon Steiner) to help fight autograph fraud in the hobby. I must have emailed Steiner Sports over a dozen times about certain issues.

I remember two years ago I emailed Steiner Sports about a website that was selling over 100 Derek Jeter forgeries. The forgeries were the GAI (Steve Sipe) certed forgeries. There I as going out of my way to protect the interests of Steiner Sports and nothing, and now they want to advertise their over-priced items here!!!

I vote "No."

The heck with them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








So with that being said I will respectfully decline working with Steiner until Steiner proves they help more than their pockets.
Thanks
leon"
Beautiful, Leon.
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:18 PM
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:27 PM
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:09 PM
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Thank you Leon
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:12 PM
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Thanks Chris. Here is the message I just sent them...


"Hi Ann
I run a forum of extremely avid collectors. We look out for the hobby a lot. I personally have helped the Secret Service, FBI, Postal Inspector and Dept. Of Homeland Security, over the last year in rooting out fraud. Unfortunately it seems Steiner is only out for the money. Here is a message you might pass on, if anyone caresナI cut and pasted it from my forum, and it is from Christopher Williams, who helps the hobby a ton.

"For years I tried to get Steiner Sports (Brandon Steiner) to help fight autograph fraud in the hobby. I must have emailed Steiner Sports over a dozen times about certain issues.

I remember two years ago I emailed Steiner Sports about a website that was selling over 100 Derek Jeter forgeries. The forgeries were the GAI (Steve Sipe) certed forgeries. There I as going out of my way to protect the interests of Steiner Sports and nothing, and now they want to advertise their over-priced items here!!!

I vote "No."

The heck with them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








So with that being said I will respectfully decline working with Steiner until Steiner proves they help more than their pockets.
Thanks
leon"
Great response.
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:18 PM
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Steiner all about the dollar. Everything overpriced. Greed by the tenth degree.
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:51 PM
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Leon,
I'd love to hear what their response is to your email.
Mark
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:35 PM
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I'd love to hear what their response is to your email.
Mark

It is a polite and professional response.-


Hi Leon,


I can definitely appreciate your interest in and protection of collecting. As one who works in the signed memorabilia world, I have aligned myself with a business that I believe has the highest level of integrity.


I cannot speak to Christopher Williams' experience because I don't have all the facts. The only facts I do have are what I see day to day at Steiner. I see the handling of our athletes, their signing process, and the meticulous treatment of items once signed. I see the double authentication that rigorously goes into place for each piece of game-used memorabilia. And I see a business whose focus is on keeping their offerings fully authenticated, often at greatly inflated expense.


We are a business, that is true, so making money is how we continue on. I hope you'll consider this and decide to join us. But, if not, I do understand that you're in a unique position and coming at this decision from a very passionate place and you have my respect.

Thanks,
Ann




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Old 02-14-2014, 04:42 PM
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That is a very professional response. Of course, I know there are many who have had a very different and decidedly not "meticulous" experience sending things into Steiner for private/public signings. I never had an issue, but I know others have.

I see in her quote "And I see a business whose focus is on keeping their offerings fully authenticated, often at greatly inflated expense," she forgot to add "at a greatly inflated price" to the end of the sentence.
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