Simulated T206 sheets....check them out....plus, new find of 350/460 series DRUM card

[cfc1909]

actually in Post #24 in this thread you clearly state

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ht=conroy+drum



Conroy & Mullin both were also printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back. Therefore, due to my "mutually exclusive" rule, I do not expect these 2 subjects to be
found with the BL 460 back....consequently there is a slim (or no) chance that they were printed with a DRUM back.

[tedzan]

I contradicted my [AB 460.....BL 460] mutually exclusive rule. Thanks for reminding me. Therefore, we should not expect Conroy and Mullin
to be found with BL 460 backs.

Thanks Jim

I spent most of the day clearing snow and removing a fallen tree off the roof of my barn....so, I'm not surprised that I overlooked that one.

TED Z

[hshrimps]

"a DRUM Conroy (batting) was discovered recently in a 500+ card find"

Where can I read about this new finds?

[atx840]

Originally Posted by hshrimps

"a DRUM Conroy (batting) was discovered recently in a 500+ card find"

Where can I read about this new finds?

T206Resource article

[atx840]

I don't think Nichols (batting) is a 350/460 card.

Cards were likely swapped out during the print process so some sheets may be identical in configuration but for one or two cards, giving different/odd brand numbers. Below is a basic example of this.

If you had a sheet of 34 (including Nichols) used for the 350 series you would get 34 Drums.

Then Nichols gets swapped out for a new card (Downey Batting) and that new sheet is still used for the 350 & 460 series. We would then have the original 34 Drums + 1 new Drum (Downey) giving 35 Drums.

Now for the 460 series the new sheet of 34 with Downey could have been used for Cycles, giving us different counts (35 Drums & 34 Cycles) which makes solving sheet layouts quite difficult.

[sreader3]

I am a little tardy to this discussion so apologies if I am missing your point. Nichols is available with Sovereign 350 Apple Green (not Forest Green) and American Beauty 350 No Frame (not With Frame). He is also short-printed like, for example, Rhoades (Right Arm Extended). So while Nichols is technically speaking a 350-only subject ("technically" in the sense that he is not available with any 460 back), there is some pretty compelling evidence he was destined to be a 350/460 regular print subject but was pulled from production early.

[tedzan]

Scot is correct....Simon Nicholls Major League career ended at the start of the 1910 season, just as American Lithographic (ALC) had selected
the 66 subjects for their 350/460 series.

There is no doubt in my mind that the T206 Nicholls (with bat) card was destined for the 350/460 series. This is why ALC printed his card with
an AB 350 No Frame back.

Nicholls was a farmer from Maryland. Playing for Connie Mack's A's was convenient for him traveling from his farm. He was very unhappy when
Connie Mack traded him to Cleveland in Dec. 1909. He played in only 3 games with Cleveland in 1910 and called it quits.....which explains why
his card never was printed with 460 series backs.


TED Z