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Old 02-09-2014, 02:05 AM
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Thank you, guys. If you can, post this on your Twitter, and Facebook pages. We need to get action on this as quickly as possible, because these beautiful creatures are just being slaughtered.

Now if you'll all excuse me, I'm going to hug my lab, and cry.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:21 AM
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I'm with you Bill. Already plan on telling as many friends and family as I can as I'm sure others will be eager to do so as well.

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Old 02-09-2014, 03:17 AM
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I'm on board. Thanks for bringing this awful situation to light.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:12 AM
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Not to say this isn't bad, but aren't there people out there that need help too? I would start there before I moved onto animals.
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Old 02-09-2014, 06:27 AM
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As bad as this is, dogs (and cats) are treated worse in China, Korea, and Viet Nam.
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Old 02-09-2014, 06:36 AM
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Not to say this isn't bad, but aren't there people out there that need help too? I would start there before I moved onto animals.
I get where you're coming from here.

BUT to look at this from another angle, and tie it in to your sentiment. If somehow, we were to focus solely on the needs of people, instead of getting sidetracked with animals, and other assorted causes, then we could get the people in a position, where maybe they could help the animals, in the form of being capable of giving them homes... Basically, a little trickle down effect..

For every job that gets outsourced, downsized, or whatever, not only do we make it harder on that household to function at full capacity, we also make it harder for them to be able to afford pets... And for every family that loses a house, they also(more than likely) lose a home for their pets, or potential pets... Start with the people, and the pets will greatly benefit as well..

How many people can afford to care for a pet, in terms of food and other general costs(licenses, whatever), but don't because the basic veterinary care makes it unaffordable for them? Probably plenty. Imagine instead of money being given to the ASPCA or other assorted animal groups, that the money went to support veterinary costs for lower end households. NOT saying more money, but the EXACT same money. Personally, I think more would be accomplished in terms of finding permanent homes for these animals..

Having said that. I'd still donate for this cause...

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Old 02-09-2014, 07:44 AM
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Not to say this isn't bad, but aren't there people out there that need help too? I would start there before I moved onto animals.

Disagree. Yes, there are people who need help, but on many levels people can help themselves. Animals cannot.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:03 AM
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It isn't a question of either/or. There are may people who can't help themselves either, due to mental illness.

If you want to help animals, help animals

If you want to help people, then help people.

If you want to help both, then help both.

Stop arguing about it and get cracking...
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:05 AM
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Having lived in Eastern Europe for years, I can tell you... these stray dogs are everywhere, and don't exactly have a high quality of life. I don't think controlling the street population of dogs is a bad thing. We do the same thing here in the USA (strays are brought to the humane society etc, and many of those that aren't adopted are euthanized).

That being said, if they are shooting them with poison darts that make them suffer for a while, that's messed up.
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It isn't a question of either/or. There are may people who can't help themselves either, due to mental illness.

If you want to help animals, help animals

If you want to help people, then help people.

If you want to help both, then help both.

Stop arguing about it and get cracking...
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Stop arguing and get cracking!

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Old 02-09-2014, 08:39 AM
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Disagree. Yes, there are people who need help, but on many levels people can help themselves. Animals cannot.
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Thanks for this thread Bill.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:45 AM
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Disagree. Yes, there are people who need help, but on many levels people can help themselves. Animals cannot.
Can children help themselves Ken? Particularly ill ones?
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:54 AM
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It's a ridiculous distinction. If people want to donate to animal rights organizations that's fine, people should give as they want, but to justify it by smugly suggesting the millions of needy people in the world can help themselves makes no sense at all.
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:56 AM
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Can children help themselves Ken? Particularly ill ones?
Are there not organizations that are already set up for children?? Not sure what your point is. There are organizations for EVERYBODY. The argument was against other people saying "shouldn't that money go to people who are needy?".......you know the people who stand on the corners begging for money and then when you don't roll down your window they curse you out and flip off and tell you that their wife is bleeding between her legs and they can't afford tampons for her.....yep those. They have so much creatively to come up with scams and schemes to get your hand out, that they should be putting that creativity to better use with a job.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:43 AM
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Not to say this isn't bad, but aren't there people out there that need help too? I would start there before I moved onto animals.
I get what you're saying, but the flaw in that argument is (for the most part) people have the ability to help themselves if they try......dogs can't help themselves.....ever.
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