New Discovery to the Hobby - E98 Old Put Back with an Orange Front!

[jcmtiger]

I don't know anything about these cards, but I purchased a Ty Cobb T205 years ago and it was laminated. I sent it to SGC and it was deemed fake. Hope this card is good.

Joe

[NYHighlanderFan]

This card may have come from the same print shop as that Walsh blue back Old Mill.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by NYHighlanderFan

This card may have come from the same print shop as that Walsh blue back Old Mill.

Not likely.

[Tim Kindler]

What evidence links this to the blue Old Mill T206 back???

[NYHighlanderFan]

The T205 Joss that same guy had laminated made me cringe.

[NYHighlanderFan]

I was only joking around by bringing up the Walsh because it was a huge topic of conversation on this board and within our hobby. And in terms of discovery, this card should be equally as huge!

BUT...the question always arises with any "one-of-a-kind" card...where are the others from that particular print run and sheet. We all know, no card is printed alone and by itself!

My suggestion is to not attempt to remove the lamination! Hopefully a grading company can do analysis on the printing process through the plastic to at least give it an "A"!!!

[Bestdj777]

SGC graded a 52 Mantle with plastic adhered to the front of it, so there is a chance they would grade this. Good luck and awesome find.

[Tim Kindler]

Joe,
No problem, just used to seeing somesort of smiley face with sarcasm. Yes, there is no doubt that any rare cards that come up like this could turn out to be nonauthentic. I'm pretty confident on this one though just based on the characteristics of this one as compared to other E98s with the Old PUt Stamp that have been known for years and a provenance that has been established for each. I'm pretty sure that the everyone who has studied these Overprints (Old PUTS that is) agrees that these were put on with somesort of a stamp. If these OLD PUTS were put on during the printing process in a sheet, they would all be uniform in where they were stamped on the back of each card. If you look at the approximately 25 known E98s with Old Put stamps, they are pretty much all over the place in their locations on the backs. Some are straight, slanted, opposite directions etc.

As I stated before, I have taken a gamble with this one. I hope to take it to the National and hopefully SGC or others from the board can give me their take on it after they have held it in person. I am more sure of its authenticity after having it in my hands.
Take Care,
Tim

[NYHighlanderFan]

I have no doubt the card is legit...and so were the T205 & T206 cards he was selling with the lamination too. Sorry if I sounded like I was questioning its authenticity. That laminated gold border Joss really did make me cringe though!

But I am still patiently waiting for another blue back Old Mill to surface...as most of us, I am sure!

[NYHighlanderFan]

Thanks Tim!

My guess would be they were overstamped with the Old Put brand by the German immigrant pack stuffers on the line right at the Old Put factory!