John Rogers Home and Business Searched by the FBI

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

What's the starting bid Robert?

On which items? The website or the collateral. The website I guess I can start it at $1.00 and see where the bidders take it. I’m sure there's a few companies or people out there that would want to bid on the website.

If Nash doesn’t give provenance or a write up on the collateral maybe I’ll sell all the collateral items in an “AS IS” auction. I can start the bidding at $1.00 and see where it goes. My problem is I hope some of the collateral I have wasn’t stolen from old lady Katherine Dooley in MA. Her attorney Jeff Roberts told me last year they considered going after Nash. He asked me, where is the Hugh Duffy bat. I told him John Rogers bought it in an “AS IS” auction along with a lot of other stuff that came from the Dooley collection, including the signed Babe Ruth mitt that came from McGreevy’s bar. Jeff Roberts, Esq. told me that Nash was allowed to take some stuff from Katherine Dooley’s house and get it appraised but they were never told what those items were. Nash never came back with an appraisal. The law firm did give me a bill of sale of 54 items Peter Nash did buy for $25,000 from Katherine Dooley plus 2 scrap books from sportswriter John Drohan, that Nash paid $1,000 for. But the bill of sale does not include the Hugh Duffy bat nor other McGreevy items like the King Kelly bat, Cap Anson Bat and the signed Babe Ruth mitt and so on. They did give me an inventory list which had the Hugh Duffy listed but the bat was not on the bill of sale. Maybe this is why Peter Nash pleaded the fifth dozens of times. The bill of sale did include the 1898 Hugh Duffy trophy but why didn’t Nash show Robert Edward auctions the bill of sale of the Hugh Duffy trophy. Instead that trophy was part of the “AS IS” sale. One of the law firm’s attorney’s was 50% executor of Kathrine Dooley’s estate. The law firm has a fiduciary responsibility to tell all the heirs what happen with the memorabilia. I wonder if the FBI was searching for the Dooley items at John Rogers properties. She died in June of 2009 so I guess the statute of limitations are good. By the way Legendary Auctions sold the 1898 Hugh Duffy trophy for $36,000. the Hugh Duffy bat and King Kelly bat are now in The National Pastime Museum. legendary Auctions sold the Cap Anson bat in August of 2012 for $53,775.

Peter Nash you should know that just a few months ago that Katherine Dooley’s law firm was deposed. The lawyer said a lot of interesting thing about you such as you returning a baseball that was missing and giving it to the attorney at Katherine Dooley’s funeral.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Seizing the website is an interesting idea. I would definitely look into wage garnishment and possibly going after any ownership interest in his music.

[Leon]

Robert - have you considered Nash possibly not being able to give provenance on some items unless he confessed to fraudulently making them himself? Such as taking something like an old ribbon, attaching it to an old bat, and making something completely (new) out of something old? Kind of like 1 +1 = 3?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Leon

Robert - have you considered Nash possibly not being able to give provenance on some items unless he confessed to fraudulently making them himself? Such as taking something like an old ribbon, attaching it to an old bat, and making something completely (new) out of something old? Kind of like 1 +1 = 3?

Or it could be stolen. One interesting thing would he having your lawyer research the statute of limitations, if you knew the state the items came from. If the clock has run out then there is no 5th amendment privilege.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by Leon

Robert - have you considered Nash possibly not being able to give provenance on some items unless he confessed to fraudulently making them himself? Such as taking something like an old ribbon, attaching it to an old bat, and making something completely (new) out of something old? Kind of like 1 +1 = 3?

You are correct, I just want Nash to tell me which stuff is real. For instance I have a King Kelly framed photo. Nash told me this framed photo was displayed at Mike “King” Kelly’s funeral in 1894 in Boston. How does Nash know this? I had the photo checked out by 2 photo experts and told me the photo is real and told me it’s a first print meaning it’s off the original negative. But the card stock is not a normal Hastings mount, but Hastings is written on the back. Did Nash have an unmounted paper print of Mike Kelly and create this framed photo? Only Peter Nash know and so far he’s not talking. But he has a lot to say on his Hauls of Shame website. Why can’t he talk about his own stuff?

I do know that Nash once bought a damaged Imperial Cabinet photo of King Kelly for $500 on eBay. Paid someone to have it repaired and then sold it for $46,400.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

Seizing the website is an interesting idea. I would definitely look into wage garnishment and possibly going after any ownership interest in his music.

Lifson already went after the music Royalties and got nothing because the IRS got there first. The surprising thing is Nash’s Royalties are extremely very small less than $1,000 a year. I don’t know how Peter Nash makes money. Maybe he’s on John Rogers payroll? I don’t think he makes any money with the website because I don’t see any advertising. Maybe John Rogers pays Nash to run the website. I heard that John Rogers may have funded the Hauls of Shame website but I don’t know if that’s true. Rogers should speak for himself and not have Nash do his bidding for him on his website.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Sunny

Lifson already went after the music Royalties and got nothing because the IRS got there first. The surprising thing is Nash’s Royalties are extremely very small less than $1,000 a year. I don’t know how Peter Nash makes money. Maybe he’s on John Rogers payroll? I don’t think he makes any money with the website because I don’t see any advertising. Maybe John Rogers pays Nash to run the website. I heard that John Rogers may have funded the Hauls of Shame website but I don’t know if that’s true. Rogers should speak for himself and not have Nash do his bidding for him on his website.

I meant seizing the actual ownership interest in the music and not just the royalties. However it is possible that he does not own any of it.

[ctownboy]

If I were owed hundreds of thousands of dollars and was getting stiffed/led on by someone who owned a website that reported on fraud and payment didn't look like it was coming any time soon, I would find out who the hosting service of the website was and see if I could start my own web site.

I would call it "(name of the person) owes me money". I would give the background story and the legal case number and then put two running counters on; one for how many dyas I had been owed money and the second for how much money I was owed.

That way, when people Googled the name of that person they would see my site. Also, if there were ways to see what other sites that hosting service had, then people would see the fraud reporting site and my site reporting what the fraud reporter owed me.

It might not get my money back but I am pretty sure I would feel better about the situation,

David

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

If I were owed hundreds of thousands of dollars and was getting stiffed/led on by someone who owned a website that reported on fraud and payment didn't look like it was coming any time soon, I would find out who the hosting service of the website was and see if I could start my own web site.

I would call it "(name of the person) owes me money". I would give the background story and the legal case number and then put two running counters on; one for how many dyas I had been owed money and the second for how much money I was owed.

That way, when people Googled the name of that person they would see my site. Also, if there were ways to see what other sites that hosting service had, then people would see the fraud reporting site and my site reporting what the fraud reporter owed me.

It might not get my money back but I am pretty sure I would feel better about the situation,

David

That’s a good idea. I was thinking about writing a book and calling it “Ex- Rapper Peter Nash, Bernie Madoff of Baseball Memorabilia”.

Peter Nash, I noticed that you talk about writing a book about Barry Halper. Why did you buy so much stuff from the Halper’s auction in 1999 if you though he was so terrible? I remember you telling me you met Barry Halper and sold him stuff. You used our credit card to buy thousands of dollars’ worth of items in the auction. You told us that some of the items were being sold at bargain prices. I hope you didn’t cheat us out of the money you made from reselling the stuff, you were supposed to split the profits with us. You used up all my ink in my printer a few times staying up all night printing items from the Barry Halper’s auction. You need to get a life and forget about baseball memorabilia, it’s ruined your life.

[yanks12025]

Sunny,
Could you post photos of these item. Would like to see what they look like.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

I meant seizing the actual ownership interest in the music and not just the royalties. However it is possible that he does not own any of it.

Lifson tried that too. He talked to a company that bought music rights. Nash’s music rights are not worth much. Being that the IRS has a lien on it the money of the sale would go to the IRS. Maybe Peter Nash is collecting Welfare, Food Stamps and rent subsidy. I will find out soon enough through the courts.