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Old 02-03-2014, 12:57 AM
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Peyton didn't have much of a chance today...Me being a 9er fan and regular game attendee I know the Seahawks MO all too well LOL....the Seahawks D pretty much did what they have been doing all year. Its hard to score against a D that puts pressure from the front four without having to blitz a lot.....and the back 7 is SO Fast and breaks to the ball quickly. They basically man cover to the outside and roll everything into a zone defense when the plays turn in towards the middle...the LB's are fast enough to stay with most RB's, TE's and even some wide outs...and the two safeties are always at the back patrolling what come in front of them and they do a great job of reading the plays and all at the same time staying disciplined in their assignments.... they can play aggressively at the line and get the receivers off balance because they know they are fast enough to recover and they always have Chancellor and Thomas at the back end...

I agree the 9ers are still a force and am happy where they're at with a good D of their own, but I hope they get even more younger, bigger and faster on the Defense to keep up with the Hawks... we got a #1, 2 #2's and 3 #3's picks in the coming draft so hope we can continue to load up on young talent.

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Old 02-03-2014, 01:38 AM
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Peyton didn't have much of a chance today...Me being a 9er fan and regular game attendee I know the Seahawks MO all too well LOL....the Seahawks D pretty much did what they have been doing all year. Its hard to score against a D that puts pressure from the front four without having to blitz a lot.....and the back 7 is SO Fast and breaks to the ball quickly. They basically man cover to the outside and roll everything into a zone defense when the plays turn in towards the middle...the LB's are fast enough to stay with most RB's, TE's and even some wide outs...and the two safeties are always at the back patrolling what come in front of them and they do a great job of reading the plays and all at the same time staying disciplined in their assignments.... they can play aggressively at the line and get the receivers off balance because they know they are fast enough to recover and they always have Chancellor and Thomas at the back end...

I agree the 9ers are still a force and am happy where they're at with a good D of their own, but I hope they get even more younger, bigger and faster on the Defense to keep up with the Hawks... we got a #1, 2 #2's and 3 #3's picks in the coming draft so hope we can continue to load up on young talent.

Ricky Y
From where I sit (longtime Niner fan, former season ticket holder, and present at all 3 of those damn Seahawk games this year) I think that's dead on the money. There's so much more flexibility for a defense when you don't have to blitz regularly to get pressure. People like Peyton/Brady/Brees make a living spotting and exploiting blitzes, but Seattle has 7 guys in coverage consistantly.. and as seen the past 2 years, all those guys had a lot of trouble with this team (Brees looked completely lost against them twice this year). The Niners are able to do the same, but think the Niners' front four gets pressure more consistently, and in essence helps cover our secondary by doing so.. whereas I feel the Hawks secondary (and linebackers) does a great job of forcing QB's to hold the ball, in essence helping their front four get pressure. If you could combine the Niners' and Seahawks' defenses you would have THE PERFECT D... can you imagine our linebackers flying all over, with their DB behind them??? (and that's not to take away from Seattle LBs or Niners' DBs, both very good units).

I've been telling my buddy (who works for the Hawks) and a few others that I have a man crush on Kam Chancellor. That dude is an absolute ballplayer... supports the run like a Tim McDonald, hits like a bigger Ronnie Lott, and is still fast enough to catch Kaep from behind on his long run in the champ game. I'm worried we may lose our guy "Hitner" this year, and don't to have to hope we score another Eric Reid caliber safety.. but agree, we do need to keep bringing in some grade A young talent.. in the secondary, on the D Line, and we need a WR that can stretch a D (still want to strangle for Scott McCloughan for passing on DeSean Jackson not once, but TWICE!) The Niners are still pretty young though, but the Seahawks are younger. It'll be an arms race for new/young talent in the NFC west for a while.

Scott F- re Kaep running, I'm fine with his continuing to run (it's an amazing and often undefensable weapon) and he's been very good about avoiding big hits. He's rarely been completely "blown up" on a run (J Rice had that ability too), and most often seems to get what he can then duck out of bounds or slide.. or just cut back inside, run through some arm tackles and house it. Wilson seems similar in avoiding the big hits (and is the most functionally elusive QB in the league).. as opposed to RGIII who seemingly would get blasted with regularity his rookie year. My only problem is if Kaep's running remains a hinderance to his development as a complete QB.. a crutch he relies on when a play devolves or his primary isn't open. So far, I think it has, as he's been prone to give up on plays early, to force balls and to make a lot of pre-snap decisions. That said however, he's been very effective up to now and we have no reason to doubt he'll keep getting better. After watching Seattle dominate Denver, I'm sure Kaep's always big shoulder chip is growing larger and larger. I promise this- there will be no more playful video game bet/shaving eyebrow commercials this offseason.
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Old 02-03-2014, 01:58 PM
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From where I sit (longtime Niner fan, former season ticket holder, and present at all 3 of those damn Seahawk games this year) I think that's dead on the money. There's so much more flexibility for a defense when you don't have to blitz regularly to get pressure. People like Peyton/Brady/Brees make a living spotting and exploiting blitzes, but Seattle has 7 guys in coverage consistantly.. and as seen the past 2 years, all those guys had a lot of trouble with this team (Brees looked completely lost against them twice this year). The Niners are able to do the same, but think the Niners' front four gets pressure more consistently, and in essence helps cover our secondary by doing so.. whereas I feel the Hawks secondary (and linebackers) does a great job of forcing QB's to hold the ball, in essence helping their front four get pressure. If you could combine the Niners' and Seahawks' defenses you would have THE PERFECT D... can you imagine our linebackers flying all over, with their DB behind them??? (and that's not to take away from Seattle LBs or Niners' DBs, both very good units).

I've been telling my buddy (who works for the Hawks) and a few others that I have a man crush on Kam Chancellor. That dude is an absolute ballplayer... supports the run like a Tim McDonald, hits like a bigger Ronnie Lott, and is still fast enough to catch Kaep from behind on his long run in the champ game. I'm worried we may lose our guy "Hitner" this year, and don't to have to hope we score another Eric Reid caliber safety.. but agree, we do need to keep bringing in some grade A young talent.. in the secondary, on the D Line, and we need a WR that can stretch a D (still want to strangle for Scott McCloughan for passing on DeSean Jackson not once, but TWICE!) The Niners are still pretty young though, but the Seahawks are younger. It'll be an arms race for new/young talent in the NFC west for a while.

Scott F- re Kaep running, I'm fine with his continuing to run (it's an amazing and often undefensable weapon) and he's been very good about avoiding big hits. He's rarely been completely "blown up" on a run (J Rice had that ability too), and most often seems to get what he can then duck out of bounds or slide.. or just cut back inside, run through some arm tackles and house it. Wilson seems similar in avoiding the big hits (and is the most functionally elusive QB in the league).. as opposed to RGIII who seemingly would get blasted with regularity his rookie year. My only problem is if Kaep's running remains a hinderance to his development as a complete QB.. a crutch he relies on when a play devolves or his primary isn't open. So far, I think it has, as he's been prone to give up on plays early, to force balls and to make a lot of pre-snap decisions. That said however, he's been very effective up to now and we have no reason to doubt he'll keep getting better. After watching Seattle dominate Denver, I'm sure Kaep's always big shoulder chip is growing larger and larger. I promise this- there will be no more playful video game bet/shaving eyebrow commercials this offseason.
About Kap...I don't mind his running so much since its an element of his aresnal that works... but I agree with you...he needs to still refine his QB skills.... esp his footwork and being more patient and going through progressions particularly in the red zone where the field is more condensed and congested...I think that's why they've had to settle for FG's so often inside the 20 yd line...

NFC West is now how NFC Central and East used to be ... rough, tough and physical... I think the Bronco's weren't prepared for that time of play...

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Hey, did y'all see that endorsement deal that Peyton Manning turned down?




......me either.

Russell Wilson for MVP!

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