Has Anyone ID'd Sharpe In T206??

[z28jd]

A lot of the T206 portraits are older shots. For instance, the Lucky Wright picture is actually a picture of Eugene Wright from a 1903 Horner photo. The Otto Krueger is a 1904 photo and it's actually supposed to be Art Kruger, who was playing for Columbus at the time. So both of those cards showed the wrong player and used much earlier photos

[veloce]

Every photo I can find of Sharpe looks like the Hinchman M116/T206... long face and bulgy eyes. Hard to find pictures of Hinchman, but I see Rhett has this pic on his starsofthediamond website (and apparently is selling the group of Colgan's on B/S/T ):



I can imagine Hinchman's face being painted that way. Seems plausible that they just accidentally swapped the Hinchman and Sharpe photos before the artwork was done.

[nolemmings]

I can imagine Hinchman's face being painted that way.

I can't, although I thought about that too when I checked my Colgans. The chin and the brow are pretty far off, and I don't know why they would give him that hairstyle.

This might better show the diferences.

[bmarlowe1]

LOL - Quite a lot of confusion here. To start with, the Colgan Chiip (below left) depicts Bill Hinchman (exemplar below right), not Harry Hinchman.

[veloce]

Whoops, my bad. Somehow I didn't even notice the Toledo vs. Columbus aspect. I guess I was thinking midsize midwest city with an American Association team. Strange that Rhett listed him as Harry as did SGC... of course they're brothers so a picture of one should resemble the other

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by veloce

Every photo I can find of Sharpe looks like the Hinchman M116/T206... long face and bulgy eyes. Hard to find pictures of Hinchman, but I see Rhett has this pic on his starsofthediamond website (and apparently is selling the group of Colgan's on B/S/T ):



I can imagine Hinchman's face being painted that way. Seems plausible that they just accidentally swapped the Hinchman and Sharpe photos before the artwork was done.

I'm not sure why I have him listed as Harry on my website, must have been an mistake from the SCD checklist when I set up the site, obviously the image is of Bill (as pointed out) and Bill was the player with Columbus during that time period, also according to my own player database this is what I have as far as their cards...


Hinchman, Harry S.
• 1911 T201
• 1909/11 T206 Tol
• 1902/11 W600 1907 Cle

Hinchman, William W. (Bill)
• 1908 Am Pub Co PC
• 1909/11 Colgans (E254)
• 1912 Colgans Red
• 1913 Colgans Tin Tops
• 1909/10 E97
• 1909/10 E97 B/W
• 1917/20 M101-6
• 1908/09 Rose Co PC
• 1909/11 T206 Cleve
• 1909/10 W555 Heinchman
• 1902/11 W600 1907 Cle

[veloce]

Thanks for the list Rhett, so I was sort of right. Look at the Rose company photo:

http://oct13.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...em.pl?lotno=22

This is the photo, that the T206 Sharpe card used. T206 did switch the Hinchman and Sharpe photos and then they further messed up Bill and Harry.

[Vintagecatcher]

Corrected version. So if I'm following at home correctly, the T206 Sharpe (Newark) is actually Harry Hinchman not Bud Sharpe and the T206 Hinchman (Toldeo) is actually Bud Sharpe...which gives us the old "double switch."

Patrick

[veloce]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

So if I'm following at home correctly, the T206 Sharpe (Newark) is actually Bill Hinchman not Bud Sharpe and the T206 Hinchman (Toldeo) is actually Bud Sharpe...which gives us the old "double switch."

Patrick

Correct.

[Vintagecatcher]

So, in theory, Sharpe collectors might be Hinchman collectors and Hinchman collectors might be Sharpe collectors...no wonder Pete hates "The Monster!"

Patrick

[DeadBallEraCubs]

Very nice find Rick!! So, that answers my question. The player featured on Bud Sharpe's T206 card is actually Bill Hinchman. Bud Sharpe on the other hand is featured on Harry Hinchman's T206 card. Very nice work by all