Brutal PSA Poppage

[KCRfan1]

I believe most of us would agree that BGS does not translate well to PSA or SGC. BGS is usually overgraded and I would expect a grade drop to PSA or SGC. I would have left the Stargell and Henderson cards alone. Nothing too much wrong with a 9, and the likelyhood of 10's were slim. Too bad about the CJ, most of the 4's I have seen look pretty good. There is a lot of human element involved. Different grading companies and different graders. There is our own human element as well. Some of us believe we have better cards than we might.

[Mrvintage]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I believe most of us would agree that BGS does not translate well to PSA or SGC. BGS is usually overgraded and I would expect a grade drop to PSA or SGC. I would have left the Stargell and Henderson cards alone. Nothing too much wrong with a 9, and the likelyhood of 10's were slim. Too bad about the CJ, most of the 4's I have seen look pretty good. There is a lot of human element involved. Different grading companies and different graders. There is our own human element as well. Some of us believe we have better cards than we might.

The VCP price of a psa 9 Stargell is $55.00 while the VCP of a psa 10 is $1245.00. I felt this card was a very strong 9 and had a pretty good shot at a 10. I felt the same way with the BGS 9 Joe Mauer gold refractor auto. The Henderson I knew was a long shot but I took a gamble on it. The PSA 5 Griffey is just ridiculous unless it was damaged in shipping or somewhere along the way.

[Rich Klein]

I never would have taken the BGS 9.5 with all 9.5 subs out of the holder.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I never would have taken the BGS 9.5 with all 9.5 subs out of the holder.

+1

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

The VCP price of a psa 9 Stargell is $55.00 while the VCP of a psa 10 is $1245.00.

I can certainly understand your motive for trying to bump-up cards - you cite a perfect example and for this reason is why I shied away from collecting pre-1973 PSA 10s or even PSA 9s since there is so much subjectivity involved.

It's been well documented on this board that you could be paying a premium on bumped-up card simply because one or two graders were in a better mood on that particular day or were engaged in a pattern of being consistently generous to a certain submitter or for whatever reason. I find the whole "game" very disturbing since the net effect is that grading company wins by grading the same card multiple times, the seller wins with the major profit realized and the buyer ultimately looses by overpaying. The buyer's only hope is that he'll eventually find someone to pay more for that overpriced card.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

I can certainly understand your motive for trying to bump-up cards - you cite a perfect example and for this reason is why I shied away from collecting pre-1973 PSA 10s or even PSA 9s since there is so much subjectivity involved.

It's been well documented on this board that you could be paying a premium on bumped-up card simply because one or two graders were in a better mood on that particular day or were engaged in a pattern of being consistently generous to a certain submitter or for whatever reason. I find the whole "game" very disturbing since the net effect is that grading company wins by grading the same card multiple times, the seller wins with the major profit realized and the buyer ultimately looses by overpaying. The buyer's only hope is that he'll eventually find someone to pay more for that overpriced card.

I agree with all of this, but at what point do we start blaming the buyers for the huge disparity in price, when they know damn well they may be buying a 10, that was a 9, just a few days or weeks ago?

.......or maybe "blame" is the wrong word, but they made their bed it seems.

[Piratedogcardshows]

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

The VCP price of a psa 9 Stargell is $55.00 while the VCP of a psa 10 is $1245.00. I felt this card was a very strong 9 and had a pretty good shot at a 10. I felt the same way with the BGS 9 Joe Mauer gold refractor auto. The Henderson I knew was a long shot but I took a gamble on it. The PSA 5 Griffey is just ridiculous unless it was damaged in shipping or somewhere along the way.

Damn 1190.00 for one grade higher.That's just nuts.