New Old Judge discovery

[barrysloate]

Scott- couldn't disagree more.

You can dislike Keith, or Rush, or anybody. But you can dislike them silently. In this case, just stick to the story regarding the new baseball card find, and limit your comments to that. In Rob D.'s example (a funny one at that), I would be able to discuss Rush's rare books without expressing my personal feelings about him. Those don't even matter- the topic is the books.

As I like to say, one doesn't have to have an opinion about everything.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Scott- couldn't disagree more.

You can dislike Keith, or Rush, or anybody. But you can dislike them silently. In this case, just stick to the story regarding the new baseball card find, and limit your comments to that. In Rob D.'s example (a funny one at that), I would be able to discuss Rush's rare books without expressing my personal feelings about him. Those don't even matter- the topic is the books.

As I like to say, one doesn't have to have an opinion about everything.

I think we agree - dislike such people silently. You are probably more self-actualized than most internet forum participants, in your ability to compartmentalize your emotions. That would not surprise me - you have always had high forum behavior expectations. Nothing wrong with that. When respected forum members like yourself voice such hopes, there's more of a chance that they will at least be partially realized.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Scott- couldn't disagree more.

You can dislike Keith, or Rush, or anybody. But you can dislike them silently. In this case, just stick to the story regarding the new baseball card find, and limit your comments to that. In Rob D.'s example (a funny one at that), I would be able to discuss Rush's rare books without expressing my personal feelings about him. Those don't even matter- the topic is the books.

As I like to say, one doesn't have to have an opinion about everything.

I think the difference would be that Rush Limbaugh could not keep his political comments out of our forum whereas Keith Olbermann has shown the ability to separate his sports life from his political life. He even made a post here at Net54 that said he wouldn't go political.... Rush was kicked off of ESPN because he couldn't do it. While I agree with KO on most of his political views I don't have a problem with those that don't and he was certainly a polarizing figure in his time at MSNBC. Calling him a Nazi or communist is a little outlandish though, he seems to be a very solid capitalist to me.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I think the difference would be that Rush Limbaugh could not keep his political comments out of our forum whereas Keith Olbermann has shown the ability to separate his sports life from his political life. He even made a post here at Net54 that said he wouldn't go political.... Rush was kicked off of ESPN because he couldn't do it. While I agree with KO on most of his political views I don't have a problem with those that don't and he was certainly a polarizing figure in his time at MSNBC. Calling him a Nazi or communist is a little outlandish though, he seems to be a very solid capitalist to me.

I don't think any of the far-left or far-right folks can avoid 'going political' when they are in the media spotlight. ESPN is a lot different from Net54.

But you make a very good point - if Keith Olberman can do it on this forum, I don't see why the rest of us can't...unless we have less self-control than him.

It's really amazing the stuff he ends up with - while I'm kind of worn out discussing T206 printer problems, his set of proofs that never made it to production, is mind-blowing. And these cards are amazing as well. New discoveries in our hobby are always great.

[barrysloate]

Thanks Scott for the kind words.

You can like or dislike anyone you want. You can hate me if you choose, I'm okay with that. But you don't need to make a public display of it. If KO says, This is a rare baseball card, there is no political connotation to that statement whatsoever. Therefore, leave the political comments out of the discussion. You don't have to agree with his opinions on anything but you can keep your mouth shut about it (I don't mean you Scott, I think you're a really good soul). And yes, a little self control can go a long way. You don't see a whole lot of that on the internet.

[autograf]

We're all guilty about it........even Barry S brought up a reference to Limbaugh's Percodan usage. That's a similar way to kind of defame him--or point out some of his hypocritical behavior. I don't necessarily agree with Olbermann OR Limbaugh but they're both paid a handsome salary to do what they do--whether they believe it all or not....and Limbaugh was sacked from ESPN because of his reference on Donovan McNabb....not so much political as it was seen as somewhat racist.

Bottom line.....everyone has a slant. Bottom line #2.....the cards are WAY cool. There have to be more of them out there. The whole doggone city of San Francisco didn't completely burn up did it? Guess I'd better brush up on my SF history. You think Mark Macrae would have seen some of these in the day or maybe he has a whole file cabinet of them.....

[barrysloate]

Hey Tom- at least the percodan joke wasn't political.

[CW]

Originally Posted by autograf

The whole doggone city of San Francisco didn't completely burn up did it? Guess I'd better brush up on my SF history.

Well, Tom, your comment got me curious, so after a quick search and a glance at this page, it seems like 80% of the city was destroyed by the quake, the fire, and.... people setting their own homes on fire. A quick blurb and a map of the damage:

The quake lasted 42 seconds, causing severe damage. Ruptured gas lines (and the scarcity of water due to ruptures in those lines) caused city-wide fires that eventually were responsible for up to 90% of the total destruction. Additionally, since the insurance companies didn’t refund the actual quake damage, many people set fire to their own homes. The fires raged for four days and nights. By that time, 80% of the city was destroyed. Estimates of the damage range from $500 million to as high as $1 billion (equivalent to as much as $300 billion in 2005 money).

[bgar3]

It is also believed that the San Francisco fire and quake destroyed Seymour Church's baseball museum/collection, some copies of his History of Base Ball 1845-1871 Volume I,(published in San Francisco) and whatever might have gone into volume II. Unfortunately there are no relevant photos in volume I to this discussion, but for those who might not have ever seen a copy of the book, the photos and color lithographs that are there are remarkable and even include a 1902 photo of mathewson, in a book published in 1902.

[ZenPop]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I think the difference would be that Rush Limbaugh could not keep his political comments out of our forum whereas Keith Olbermann has shown the ability to separate his sports life from his political life. He even made a post here at Net54 that said he wouldn't go political.... Rush was kicked off of ESPN because he couldn't do it. While I agree with KO on most of his political views I don't have a problem with those that don't and he was certainly a polarizing figure in his time at MSNBC. Calling him a Nazi or communist is a little outlandish though, he seems to be a very solid capitalist to me.

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My beef is that there is no implied agreement w/ Olbermann's opinions when one agrees or comments on his baseball card discussion. Just because you love his analysis on an Old Judge card does not make you a fan of Single Payer healthcare. So there's ZERO need to blurt out that you think someone is a commie when the discussion has ZERO to do with politics. That's what set me off.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by ZenPop

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My beef is that there is no implied agreement w/ Olbermann's opinions when one agrees or comments on his baseball card discussion. Just because you love his analysis on an Old Judge card does not make you a fan of Single Payer healthcare. So there's ZERO need to blurt out that you think someone is a commie when the discussion has ZERO to do with politics. That's what set me off.

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