Premium for Lionel Carter collection cards

[MW1]

Originally Posted by Section103

This might be difficult to say given the diversity of Mr. Carter's collection, but what kind of premium do you think his cards sell for?

Thanks.

I have sold quite a few cards from Lionel Carter's collection over the last five years (more than 100) and have generally realized prices in the 1.25 to 2X range, depending on the card. Some examples sold on eBay since 2008:

1948 Bowman #34 Sheldon Jones SGC 50 $45
1948 Bowman #26 Frank Shea SGC 50 $40
1937 O-Pee-Chee #130 Ben Chapman SGC 60 $175
1948 Bowman #25 Barney McCoskey SGC Authentic $45
1948 Bowman #28 Emil Verban SGC Authentic $50
1948 Bowman #38 Red Schoendienst SGC 84 $590
1948 Bowman #42 Ray Poat SGC 70 $72
1948-49 Leaf #128 Warren Rosar SGC 88 $475
1948 Bowman #48 George Koslo RC SGC 88 $800
1948 Bowman #16 Jack Lohrke SGC 88 $400
1948 Bowman #27 Sid Gordon SGC 88 $300
1948-49 Leaf #14 Billy Johnson SGC 86 $400
1948 Bowman #1 Bob Elliott SGC 84 $146.50
1948 Bowman #6 Yogi Berra SGC 84 $611.01
1948-49 Leaf #53 Johnny Vandermeer SGC 84 $251.98
1948 Bowman #3 Ralph Kiner RC SGC 84 $260.00
1948 Bowman #17 Enos Slaughter SGC 84 $178.00
1937 O-Pee-Chee #137 Lefty Grove SGC 84 $1000.00
1937 O-Pee-Chee #139 Buck Newsom SGC 84 $400.00
1948 Bowman #36 Stan Musial Rookie SGC 88 $3250.00
1948-49 Leaf #11 Phil Rizzuto SGC 84 $750.00
1948-49 Leaf #31 Lou Brissie SGC 86 $500.00
1948-49 Leaf #83 Bobby Doerr SGC 86 $600.00
1948-49 Leaf #77 Roy Smalley SGC 86 $450.00
1948-49 Leaf #39 Ewell Blackwell SGC 84 $265.00
1948-49 Leaf #1 Joe DiMaggio SGC 80 $2500.00
1937 O-Pee-Chee #119 Bill Dickey SGC 84 $1200.00
1948-49 Leaf #49 Del Ennis SGC 88 $700.00
1948-49 Leaf #14 Billy Johnson SGC 86 $400.00
1956 Topps #181 Billy Martin SGC 88 $400.00
1948 Bowman #5 Bob Feller SGC 92 $1000.00
1948-49 Leaf #91 Ralph Kiner SGC 84 $425.00
1948 Bowman #18 Warren Spahn RC SGC 84 $750.00
1934-36 Diamond Stars #11 Bill Dickey SGC 84 $550.00
1934-36 Diamond Stars #32 Sam Rice SGC 84 $225.00


Note: Some of the card prices above reflect a multiplier greater than 2X, but this mostly comprises those examples that are otherwise NM-MT or Mint but have relatively small defects that lower the technical condition by one or more grades.

[Section103]

Thanks, both of you. I had some recollection that a premium often didn't exist. A few of the cards on my radar are fairly high grades so this information is very helpful.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I think it would only bring. A premium if people know who he was. If I were selling cards from his collection I would include information about Mr.Carter or a link to a page with info about him.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

I think it would only bring. A premium if people know who he was. If I were selling cards from his collection I would include information about Mr.Carter or a link to a page with info about him.

I know who he is. I just don't place a premium on a previous owner. To me, the card is the card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by conor912

I know who he is. I just don't place a premium on a previous owner. To me, the card is the card.

Agree 100 percent.

[3-2-count]

Depends on the card and who the buyer is. I see both arguments, but I personally place a small premium on some of his tougher cards because well, I think it's cool.

[Northviewcats]

I believe that any additional value given to card based on who collected it in the past is assigned by the purchaser.

For example, I paid a little more for a T206 Tinker from the Skydash collection, solely because I enjoyed remembering how the discovery of the collection unfolded on this board. To me the memory was worth the extra $20 I paid for the card.

Maybe someday my grandson will ask me why the card is encapsulated with Skydah on the label and I will have a good story to tell him about how some old cardboard was rescued from the garbage.

Best regards,

Joe

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by Northviewcats

I believe that any additional value given to card based on who collected it in the past is assigned by the purchaser.

For example, I paid a little more for a T206 Tinker from the Skydash collection, solely because I enjoyed remembering how the discovery of the collection unfolded on this board. To me the memory was worth the extra $20 I paid for the card.

Maybe someday my grandson will ask me why the card is encapsulated with Skydah on the label and I will have a good story to tell him about how some old cardboard was rescued from the garbage.

Best regards,

Joe

Exactly what I meant Joe. Well said!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Agree 100 percent.

+1...

[bobbyw8469]

I have only had one Lionel Carter card ever. It brought no premium whatsoever.