Bruce Dorskind's Collection

barrysloate · #1 01-20-2014, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

Maybe the reason Bruce died alone is that he would send lots of people -- not just me -- pms and emails with nice stuff like he hoped you would be held down and have to watch your wife be gang-raped or that he hoped your entire family died screaming in a fire. And I should respect him because he did one thing right and died? I don't think so. F--k him. I didn't say what I wanted to say on the thread about his death out of respect for Barry, but this is not that thread.

Ryan is probably right -- I should try to get over that and simply realize that he was a psychotic who could sometimes be charming, or at least nice, even to the "little people." So could Ted Bundy. In any event, I guess I'm not there yet. I'm more like Adam. I guess I'll have to work on doing better. And John, to answer your first post and question, I do feel a little better having said what I said. It was somewhat cathartic.

No Kenny, you don't have to respect him, and I was as outraged by his posts as anyone. But he's no longer here so why not just move on. The battle is over.

barrysloate · #2 01-20-2014, 07:35 PM

And I'm not sure Bruce died alone. He had a brother and his father is still living, and I'm sure it was heartbreaking for his father to outlive his son. He also had many friends who paid him tribute on a website developed after he died.

His private messages to people were horrific, I used to practically scream at him to stop doing it, and he never even listened to me once. He had some serious issues that he didn't know how to deal with. But he's gone.

Kenny Cole · #3 01-20-2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate

No Kenny, you don't have to respect him, and I was as outraged by his posts as anyone. But he's no longer here so why not just move on. The battle is over.

Barry, you should probably offer, and I should probably take, a Ghandi class.

However, IMO, there are some things that transcend death. Some of the stuff Bruce did and sent to me fit that category.

It is wonderful for REA to give a glowing write-up for Bruce's collection. I've never seen it, but hear its awesome. Ultimately, what that means is that they get to sell the collection of a sad, pathetic little man who couldn't even attract a mate. What an epitaph.

barrysloate · #4 01-20-2014, 07:51 PM

Kenny- I understand how you and others feel. I could get pretty pissed off at him too. But if he wouldn't listen to me then, he sure can't now. I'd rather focus on the upcoming sale of his collection. That's the legacy he left.

ElCabron · #5 01-20-2014, 08:09 PM

Bruce died alone because that's exactly how he lived due to how he treated people. Whether or not someone was there at the time of his passing is irrelevant. He died alone, in the truest sense.

-Ryan

Peter_Spaeth · #6 01-20-2014, 08:17 PM

On August 1, 2013 the world lost a thought-leader, mentor, philanthropist, successful businessman and wonderful friend named Bruce Dorskind. He was a curator of information, stories, statistics and trends. Moreover, Bruce was a true collector- of business cards, baseball cards and other memorabilia, but most of all people. Truly embracing the concept of social before social media existed, Bruce stayed close to his wide array of friends and business contacts around the world through frequent calls, emails, meetings and news clippings. His sphere of influence is only overshadowed by our collective sadness in his passing.

http://brucedorskindremembered.com/

ullmandds · #7 01-20-2014, 08:19 PM

Wow...what a smokescreen! Did Bruce write that himself!

Peter_Spaeth · #8 01-20-2014, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

Wow...what a smokescreen! Did Bruce write that himself!

Doubt it, there are numerous tributes on the site. Complex story, it seems.

tbob · #9 01-24-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NoizeBringer

Bruce died alone because that's exactly how he lived due to how he treated people. Whether or not someone was there at the time of his passing is irrelevant. He died alone, in the truest sense.

-Ryan

+1. Well said Ryan. I escaped the angry death threat and other nasty emails but I was upset with how my friends on this Board were treated by Bruce. When I read Bruce's comments about the only important thing in life to him was not friends, but pieces of cardboard, I think about It's a Wonderful Life when Jimmy Stewart receives the book with the inscription that no man is a failure who has friends. Sadly Bruce may have rejoiced in his collection but never realized how much more important it is to have friends...

CW · #10 01-24-2014, 06:03 PM

I let a friend at work borrow a CD from me, Chick Corea's Friends. Later that day, the same friend sent me an email pointing out this passage from the CD's liner notes. Posted here as it seems appropriate, and falls in line with tbob's comment above...

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"One night I sat wrapped up in the worries and problems of myself and the world around me. It all looked very dim.

I looked at all the material objects that I owned and suddenly realized that they all had very little meaning without the comfort, safeness and joy of the friendships I have with my friends.

I thought of my friends and how much our companionship and love meant to me and I felt very rich in the actual treasures of life. Life no longer looked dim but very bright and the things that were problems now looked like so many small imperfections which simply needed tending and repair."

-Chick Corea

JEFFV96MASTERS · #11 01-26-2014, 08:14 PM

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Peter_Spaeth · #12 01-24-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tbob

+1. Well said Ryan. I escaped the angry death threat and other nasty emails but I was upset with how my friends on this Board were treated by Bruce. When I read Bruce's comments about the only important thing in life to him was not friends, but pieces of cardboard, I think about It's a Wonderful Life when Jimmy Stewart receives the book with the inscription that no man is a failure who has friends. Sadly Bruce may have rejoiced in his collection but never realized how much more important it is to have friends...

I suspect that comment was just made for effect, given that Bruce obviously had many friends as evident from the link I posted before.

ElCabron · #13 01-24-2014, 09:51 PM

Peter,

First, I'm not entirely convinced that page is legit and not something Bruce concocted himself. For the sake of not wanting to be that jaded, let's say it's real. The thing that struck me was that most of these people hadn't kept in touch with Bruce in years and were basing their positive experiences on who he was 20 years ago. Maybe he was different years ago. It's intriguing.

I began to wonder (and I'm actually saying this from a place of compassion and seeking to understand, not as a joke or a dig on Bruce) if it might have been possible that he actually had some kind of brain issue, a physiological one (tumor? trauma?) that altered his brain in a way that somehow created a compartmentalized psychopathic/sociopathic persona that was limited only to his online interactions with people. As if it was impossible for him to view people online as actual human beings. Maybe it got worse and worse over the years. Clearly from what most board members who met him or spent any time with him person say, he was a completely different guy in person. Maybe some people shoot people at random from a clocktower, and others threaten people and their families on baseball card chat boards.

I realize it sounds like I'm playing armchair headshrinker, but it's not even a theory I'm proposing, just something I thought about after seeing that tribute page. It's actually nice to read positive things about him from people who had absolutely no idea who he was in our community.

I also wondered what any of those people would think if they did a google search for "Bruce Dorskind." Would they be shocked to learn of how insanely and horribly he treated people in his "hobby." Or do they know about that side of him and chalk it up to him being "eccentric" or "complicated"?

I guess we'll never really know, and I suppose it doesn't really matter. I just found that link to be interesting, whatever it means. None of that changes the fact that he died alone. He was proud of the fact that his cards and memorabilia gave him the same joy (in his mind) and sense of fulfillment that the rest of us suckers mainly get from raising our children and spending time with our families. I think it's tragic that anyone could leave this world THAT alone, regardless of how awful he was to people and the fact that he chose that for himself.

Anyway, that's all I have to say about Mr. Dorskind. And that's all the energy I care to expend on thinking about him.

-Ryan

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