520-card T206 set live auction in Buckingham, Pennsylvania

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

beautiful cards, ted...congrats...so did ink transfer in storage...or are they all wet sheet transfers/bleed throughs?

I'm not sure I understand, but then there are times when I cannot figure if you are joshing or you are serious. Anyhow, I don't see
any evidence of "wst" on 11 of these cards.

The back of the Pfeffer card is a mystery to me....as it appears to have black printing under (or over) the red Sweet Caporal print.
I don't view this effect as a result of wst....since Sweet Cap backs were not printed with black ink. Perhaps, it was the result of a
black ink "prep-to-print" printer's test.


Besides you, others here have noted "wst's" on these cards. Therefore, I'm asking anyone here, check out these enlarged scans of
the cards, and tell me where you detect hints of wst ?


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Thanks,

TED Z

[ullmandds]

ted...what I'm referring to is...for ex...on the ford, devore, duffy fronts...I can see ink from the backs...and I'm wondering if this occurred during production or could have occurred from storage over the years?

[ullmandds]

also on the wheat, mcgraw, pfeiffer?

[Pat R]

I see them on all but the Crandall and Gandil the Hummel, Tannehill and Sheckard are
faint but the rest are quite pronounced.

[Jantz]

Pete

I did a lot of research on these 12 players a few years ago. If you search the archives for a thread I started named "A possible T206 sheet", I talked about how these 12 player's cards consistently show a wet sheet transfer on the front of their cards. I believe it occurred during production and I also believe these 12 players were on a sheet together.

I also own a few of these 12 player's card with Sweet Caporal 460-42 backs and all of mine have the same wet sheet transfer. I've seen too many over the years to think it happened from storage. This wet sheet transfer would have occurred on other cards and not just the factory 42s if that was the case/cause. I've never seen a McGraw SC factory 30 with this wet sheet transfer, yet almost all of his SC factory 42 cards have it. A few factory 42s do appear without the wet sheet transfer and this was probably because of the way the sheets were stacked. No transfer means that card was either on the bottom or top sheet depending on how the sheets were stacked during production.


Jantz

[ullmandds]

thanks Jantz...interesting!

[andy]

I have one SC 460 f42. Sheckard throwing. Never noticed it before, but it too has a faint wst. Most prominent along right side.

[tedzan]

OK guys....it's game time....for starters I want you to tell me which of these cards have WST's on them. And mind you, some where in each row there is a
SWEET CAP 460, Factory #42 card of each subject..






Good luck with your guesses.


T-Rex TED


P.S. Furthermore, if you so desire, I will aspire to show multi-backed scans of all the Exclusive 12 subjects.....so, we can try to detect some WST's.
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

ted...what I'm referring to is...for ex...on the ford, devore, duffy fronts...I can see ink from the backs...and I'm wondering if this occurred during production or could have occurred from storage over the years?

Pete

If there are wst on these cards it was strictly due to printers stacking freshly printed sheets (before the ink had fully dried).

Whatever, I have a problem with you, and several guys here, saying they see wst on these cards. Yes, I understand that these subject's have been seen with wst.

However, I'm sorry guys....I just don't see any hints of wst on the fronts of these cards.

Perhaps, I've seen too many of these cards and they all have become a "blur", or maybe I'm going "blind"



TED Z

[kdixon]

Wow, congrats Ted...

[ullmandds]

i pick door #4...tannehill...pfeiffer #3, sheckard #1.

[andy]

I'd say 4, 3, and 1 too

[andy]

I remember about 12 years ago I was in a large meeting. Was sitting about 50 feet from the screen where the slides were being projected. Couldn't believe how bad the presentation was. Turned to the other folks at my table and chuckled to them "do they really expect us to be able to read that size font?" They turned to me and said "yup, its easy to read". Next day, made an appt with the ophthalmologist. They couldn't believe I never wore glasses before. Been wearing them ever since. Huge difference. Shocked at the difference they made. Just a humorous story for all your enjoyment.

[Jantz]

Hi Ted

I would like to play.

The Tannehill pictured fourth from the left has a Sweet Caporal wet sheet transfer.

The third Pfeffer from the left has a Sweet Caporal wet sheet transfer.

The first Sheckard from the left has a Sweet Caporal wet sheet transfer.

Pretty much the same answers as Pete, except I'd like to add that the third Tannehill from the left has a Piedmont wet sheet transfer.

Did you try to sneak that Piedmont in there on purpose?



Jantz

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by Jantz

Hi Ted

I would like to play.

The Tannehill pictured fourth from the left has a Sweet Caporal wet sheet transfer.

The third Pfeffer from the left has a Sweet Caporal wet sheet transfer.

The first Sheckard from the left has a Sweet Caporal wet sheet transfer.

Pretty much the same answers as Pete, except I'd like to add that the third Tannehill from the left has a Piedmont wet sheet transfer.

Did you try to sneak that Piedmont in there on purpose?



Jantz

Good eye Jantz! I didn't see the Piedmont at first, until I read your post

I'm seeing the same as everyone else Ted, 4,3, and 1.

Sincerely, Clayton

P.S. Nice pick ups, those are some great looking cards.......the ones I clearly see WST's on are Tannehill, Sheckard, Pfeffer, McGraw, Geyer, Devore, Ford, Duffy, and Hummel. On my monitor, the most pronounced WST's are on Pfeffer, McGraw, Devore, Duffy, and Hummel.