Help with Goodwin Cobb Blank Back

[Rob D.]

If that card was a Lajoie and not a Cobb, I would not bid on it.

[Ladder7]

Stunned, SGC slabbed it... Heh, tough economic times.

[calvindog]

I'm going to win this card cheap!

[thehoodedcoder]

the card is small in both height and width. i think its bogus.

kevin

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I'm going to win this card cheap!

Jeff that's not nice you know how sensitive I am.....

[Blunder19]

Any examples of a non southern leaguer with 2 confirmed blank backs?

I'm beginning to worry this card is not legit.

If the winner of the card determines the card is altered, would the auction house be responsible to reimburse the winner?

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

If the winner of the card determines the card is altered, would the auction house be responsible to reimburse the winner?

Lol.

[ullmandds]

def looks suspicious to me...I really don't like the edges of the card as well as the unusual little outward piece of paper jutting out of the lower left...just strange?

[4815162342]

If the winner of the card determines the card is altered, would the auction house be responsible to reimburse the winner?

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Lol.

I believe it would be the TPG's responsibility.

[z28jd]

I don't follow blank backs close enough to know if more than one exists of any non-SL card, but I will say that it shouldn't be impossible. We know cards were printed multiple times on the same sheet and you would have to assume if someone is keeping a scrap card, they were more likely to save a Cobb than some common player. Two could exist just from going to the same person off the same sheet. Also, the cut/size of a card shouldn't matter since they weren't necessarily factory cut. That being said, I don't trust blank backs unless I've seen them in person or someone I trust a lot.

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

Any examples of a non southern leaguer with 2 confirmed blank backs?

I'm beginning to worry this card is not legit.

If the winner of the card determines the card is altered, would the auction house be responsible to reimburse the winner?

I've seen scans of two different cards of Kroh.

But I think that you should judge the card not based on whether or not it should exist but on what others have talked about which is what the card looks like in relation to other T206 blank backs.

Also, the dimensions have nothing to do with it since it was hand cut. I've seen some oversize and some undersize with all being hand cut in my opinion. Even ones that look sharp and clean and even show signs of handcutting to me.

Anyway, I'm not offering an opinion as to legitimacy because I haven't seen it in hand. But just wanted to put these thoughts out there.

[Tao_Moko]

It is clearly altered and the slab should reflect it.

[Leon]

For me it's too hard to tell from the scan. There is a distinct possibility the rough parts we see on the back could be from album removal. I do see some smooth spots too, which to me, are a good sign. I wouldn't give more of an opinion unless i could personally loupe it.

[MVSNYC]

Jamie, I could be wrong, but I never thought that there wasn't blank back dupes, meaning to my knowledge there could be multiple blank backs of the same player.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

Any examples of a non southern leaguer with 2 confirmed blank backs?

I'm beginning to worry this card is not legit.

If the winner of the card determines the card is altered, would the auction house be responsible to reimburse the winner?

Currently have a situation with this exact problem. Will expand later tonight. It falls on the grading company.

[buymycards]

The scan on the Goodwin website is pretty good. To me, the back appears to have glue residue. The edges of the card seem to be hand cut, which MAY indicate that the card was cut from a scrapbook and PERHAPS soaked to remove the scrapbook paper. Whether or not the original back is still attached to the original front is impossible to tell without removing the card from the slab. I would think that with SGC's experience they would not have graded the card if the back was gone. Maybe.

Rick

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by buymycards

The scan on the Goodwin website is pretty good. To me, the back appears to have glue residue. The edges of the card seem to be hand cut, which MAY indicate that the card was cut from a scrapbook and PERHAPS soaked to remove the scrapbook paper. Whether or not the original back is still attached to the original front is impossible to tell without removing the card from the slab. I would think that with SGC's experience they would not have graded the card if the back was gone. Maybe.

Rick

SGC graded an E97 Black and White that didn't have a back, it was skinned as well.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

If that card was a Lajoie and not a Cobb, I would not bid on it.

Rob, excellent way to describe your reluctance to bid.