ebay seller - probstein123

[jhs5120]

I am still challenging anyone here to name one auction house that has more safe-guards in place to prevent shilling.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I am still challenging anyone here to name one auction house that has more safe-guards in place to prevent shilling.

You can't completely prevent shill bidding...the auctioneer will never know 100% if an item is being shilled or not. What you can do when you are made aware of a shiller is ban them from your auctions. One very obvious shiller seems to be immune from banishment.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I am still challenging anyone here to name one auction house that has more safe-guards in place to prevent shilling.

jhs - one more time, what do you think Mr Probstein would do if ebay did not provide all the protections you have mentioned, would he go through the time and trouble to list all those things himself if he ran his auctions on an independent platform?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

jhs - one more time, what do you think Mr Probstein would do if ebay did not provide all the protections you have mentioned, would he go through the time and trouble to list all those things himself if he ran his auctions on an independent platform?

Of course he wouldn't...the fact that his chosen platform shows bidder activity is a thorn in his side.

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I am still challenging anyone here to name one auction house that has more safe-guards in place to prevent shilling.

This is simply deflection. You're trying to make one person's faults seem OK by finding fault with others, others who were not even the subject of this particular thread. Ever hear of two wrongs don't make a right?

My opinion would be the same for any seller who followed these practices, I don't have an agenda for or against Probstein either way. But reading this thread, there seems to be more than enough proof that Probstein is aware of the issue and is choosing to simply ignore it. For you to say Probstein has no accountability only because eBay happens to provide a way to see that shilling is going on is ludicrous. He could stop it from happening altogether and make this a moot point, yet instead he chooses to allow it to go on. I'm positive many bidders do not go through the trouble of looking at bid history and the like. By Probstein allowing this Panky guy to continue shilling, my opinion is that he is banking on the fly-by-night buyers who are going to get shilled and never know it happened to them. That is completely shady. If you have a problem and it's made blatantly clear to you, you fix it, or you suffer the ramifications to your reputation. Sounds like he's made his choice.

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