ebay seller - probstein123

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Real or fake?

Probstein123 sells more memorabillia than any one seller on ebay. Many collectors know this and look out for his auctions. Also each auction brings attention to his other items. I have bought from his auctions multiple times and watch them frequently and I don't notice a crazy increase in the prices he gets. He also works on small percentages; meaning he takes a small percentage of the sale price as a consignment fee, so shilling wouldn't help him that much. Do you have any evidence that this happens, or are you making random accusations?

Are you kidding? You can't be serious if you have been on this forum for longer than ten minutes. It has pretty much been proven beyond a reasonable doubt more times than most members can keep straight.

I agree with previous posts about people putting their names in if you are going to side with an obvious shiller.

[parker1b2]

I never purchased anything from him, but have watched and bid on a few items but always go much higher then I would like to spend. Seems to have a few BIN that seem reasonable, but haven't pulled the trigger on anything.

[Sean1125]

Do these 86 fleers look shilled??

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=380788247091
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Flee...p2047675.l2557

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Do these 86 fleers look shilled??

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=380788247091
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Flee...p2047675.l2557

The first link isn't working, but I would have to say yes on the second one. When an item has 80 bids and 47 of them are from the same person (with only 15 feedback), it's not a good thing - not to mention the 7 feedback bidder that bid 13 times.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

The first link isn't working, but I would have to say yes on the second one. When an item has 80 bids and 47 of them are from the same person (with only 15 feedback), it's not a good thing - not to mention the 7 feedback bidder that bid 13 times.

That was my set.

I placed no bids, had no one place a bid, nor did I care what it actually ended at as it is profit from a purchase.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

That was my set.

I placed no bids, had no one place a bid, nor did I care what it actually ended at as it is profit from a purchase.

That lot may not have been shilled, but what about the ones that have been proven to be shilled? What about the whole Panky situation where he's been caught multiple times shilling his own consignments? Sean, why does Rick let him continue to consign? Don't you see anything wrong with that? You know Rick, please ask him.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That lot may not have been shilled, but what about the ones that have been proven to be shilled? What about the whole Panky situation where he's been caught multiple times shilling his own consignments? Sean, why does Rick let him continue to consign? Don't you see anything wrong with that? You know Rick, please ask him.

Have you called and asked him? He posts his cell publicly.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That lot may not have been shilled, but what about the ones that have been proven to be shilled? What about the whole Panky situation where he's been caught multiple times shilling his own consignments? Sean, why does Rick let him continue to consign? Don't you see anything wrong with that? You know Rick, please ask him.

I'm not defending Rick or blasting anyone here, I just want to know if there is any truth to this claim. If there is, I would like to see some sort of evidence to this claim. It is a fairly serious accusation.

[jimjim]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

That was my set.

I placed no bids, had no one place a bid, nor did I care what it actually ended at as it is profit from a purchase.

That means nothing. Just because you personally didn't shill the auction, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Probstein has skin in the game, so it is in his best interest to get the highest fee possible. Plus it shows possible future customers that he can get top dollar for items.

I bet that if you sold the same item yourself that you would have had a much lower selling price. And don't tell me it is because of return customers. I have been buying/selling on eBay for 14 years, and buyers purchase based on the item and price. Seller reputation only goes so far, in my opinion.

Ma.tt Wy.llie

[parker1b2]

Originally Posted by jimjim

And don't tell me it is because of return customers. I have been buying/selling on eBay for 14 years, and buyers purchase based on the item and price. Seller reputation only goes so far, in my opinion.

+1

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by jimjim

That means nothing. Just because you personally didn't shill the auction, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Probstein has skin in the game, so it is in his best interest to get the highest fee possible. Plus it shows possible future customers that he can get top dollar for items.

I bet that if you sold the same item yourself that you would have had a much lower selling price. And don't tell me it is because of return customers. I have been buying/selling on eBay for 14 years, and buyers purchase based on the item and price. Seller reputation only goes so far, in my opinion.

So are you saying Probstein shills his own auctions or asks someone to shill his auctions for him?

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

That was my set.

I placed no bids, had no one place a bid, nor did I care what it actually ended at as it is profit from a purchase.

Sean,

Can you see the actual ebay id's that bid so many times in this auction, and if so, can you (or Rick) out it?

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by glchen

Sean,

Can you see the actual ebay id's that bid so many times in this auction, and if so, can you (or Rick) out it?

I can't see the ID's.