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Old 01-05-2014, 01:00 PM
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Thanks for the large scan Leon.

The yellow below his foot and the yellow that is shown on the white border is obviously something different. With the yellow dots on the right border having a straight edge on the left side, this has to be another product. This card (make-ready sheet) appears to have run through a yellow plate alone, prior to printing the four colors for the actual card. What they could be is beyond me and will be very difficult to tell.

If you could place the card on a light table, looking through a loupe and trace out the yellow areas on a separate piece of paper, that might help see what it looks like.
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Hey Ted
Thanks again for all of the input. I don't see me going too much further with it. Suffice it to say the back has been pretty well figured out. The front blotches will remain a mystery but I do appreciate the hypothesis set forth ......

And to answer one of the questions as to which is your favorite part of the back, I will go with the Young, then the double EPDG...I have never really been a brown OM fan.....
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Thanks Johnny.

I'm not real sure about the hand cutting of the cards, since these would have been in stacks of sheets and possibly cut using this type of antique paper cutter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzONshsEiTE

When I worked in offset sheetfed printing the cutters were like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm_2Cmb9iPk Large stacks of printed sheets being cut to remove the bleeds and make the white borders. The computerized machines would keep the miscuts to a minimal, while the old machines would allow for "out of center" cuts.

(edit) and please don't feel that I don't think that some were hand cut. I am sure that happened, since I did the same thing myself! I do also believe that the rarity of these cards will become highly coveted. These cards are the very first printed and almost all would have been destroyed by the printer. Good luck with these cards, they are very unique in my opinion. Being a former printer, I have a love for misprints and printing errors.

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Great choice Leon....that was mine also
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Thanks Johnny.

I'm not real sure about the hand cutting of the cards, since these would have been in stacks of sheets and possibly cut using this type of antique paper cutter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzONshsEiTE

When I worked in offset sheetfed printing the cutters were like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm_2Cmb9iPk Large stacks of printed sheets being cut to remove the bleeds and make the white borders. The computerized machines would keep the miscuts to a minimal, while the old machines would allow for "out of center" cuts.

(edit) and please don't feel that I don't think that some were hand cut. I am sure that happened, since I did the same thing myself! I do also believe that the rarity of these cards will become highly coveted. These cards are the very first printed and almost all would have been destroyed by the printer. Good luck with these cards, they are very unique in my opinion. Being a former printer, I have a love for misprints and printing errors.
That new cutter is really nice. The older ones were similar, but without the side tables. And our pusher blocks were just chunks of 2x4.

The cutters were pretty much the only machine they didn't let me run.

Nice to see another printing guy, especially one with a lot more years in than I have.

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This is an awesome thread!!

Great work Chris, it is amazing what you can do with your computer.

This card is one of my all time favorite T206's, and has been since the first time I saw it. It is thrilling to see it separated like that. After a Wagner, I would take this card over any other T206 out there (if I were a millionaire and Leon was selling it ). This card is a gem and truly unique, and while it's true that any card is only worth what someone will pay for it, I think this card is worth six figures (just my opinion ).

Sincerely, Clayton
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