25th Anniversary - 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken Error Card!

[David W]

The thing I remember most about the FF card, was all the variations and the debate over which was rarer.

In the pre internet days, it seemed as if no one really knew.

You'd go to a card show and guys would have different versions of it, all priced at crazy prices.

It was definitely hot for a while.

[ALR-bishop]

What I found interesting was all the fakes and how they became collectibles in their own right

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

What I found interesting was all the fakes and how they became collectibles in their own right

What fakes? The only ones I know of are the Black and White test run cards and The faked whiteouts people made. Any pictures of any other fakes would be greatly appreciated.

[ALR-bishop]

I agree with you many of the white outs are fake. I also believe many of the canceled or cut outs were faked

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I agree with you many of the white outs are fake. I also believe many of the canceled or cut outs were faked

Yes I do not know how I forgot about the saw cuts. I remember at first there was only a few different ones and they where all long cuts near the center of the card. Now you can find them in every version located all across the card at every length.

My favorite saw cut ebay listing is when they say it was cut multiple times in the same location at different depths. LOL Like the maintenance man adjusted the blade depth on the skill saw and then cut in the same place.

The hole punch cards are a real version but like the saw cuts so easy to fake that they have less value than the regular card.

I have also seen black blobs put over the bat knob to make fake versions, even seen one in a PSA holder.

This is my biggest Ripken find. It is an only known scribble version. It is now owned by the OP of this thread and in a SGC slab. It is listed(incorrectly because there is no way that is a scribble with F card) on his awesome www.billripken.com website.
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[jp1216]

Many thanks to bnorth (Hi Ben) for finding that card about a year ago! One of a few nice additions in 2013. True - I did incorrectly group with with the 'F-Scribbles'. Needs it's own name. Anyone have ideas for what to call ^^That card^^?

Thanks guys for the stories so far. Here a couple different FF 'double print' varieties.

[jp1216]

Here is a comparison of the 3 basic Black Scribble versions:
1) F-Scribble - first letter F clearly visible
2) Loop-Scribble - first letter F is altered. Created a partial F or 'loop' pattern.
3) No-F Scribble - first letter F is airbrushed away.
4) Version found in 2013 by bnorth (hi Ben).

The first 3 are considered 'basic'. Most common black scribble versions found. If I was the rank them - they would be in the order shown (easiest to hardest). The 4th card is currently a unique variety. Other black scribbles would be the 'semi-airbrushed' version or 'Circle Scribble'. Very rare.

[sylbry]

[Zach Wheat]

Al,

That Pederson card....the scan is a little blurry. They obviously airbrushed his arm out of the image - but where did it go? Is it just missing? This is a serious question. Just curious.

Z Wheat

[ALR-bishop]

Maybe it is now stroking his rear end

[jp1216]

I hope you guys are talking about the Gibson card and not some card of me stroking my butt....

[ALR-bishop]

Speaking for myself, I was referring to the Gibson card.

But, not sure about Zach

[ALR-bishop]

It has come to my attention that someone may have interpreted the exchange between Zach and I as a negative remark about Jon. Absolutely not. I know Zach pretty well from off board discussions about various hobby matters, and my last remark was just a jab at him. I have enjoyed this thread and apologize if I got it off track. I greatly appreciate Jon's informative web site on the Ripken phenomena

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by jp1216

I hope you guys are talking about the Gibson card and not some card of me stroking my butt....

lol Absolutely not.

Thanks, Al.

Z Wheat

[bnorth]

Here is a really cool looking altered 89 Fleer Bill Ripken card beside a regular one.