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Old 01-04-2014, 12:44 PM
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Hey guys....I'm really excited about this thread.....glad I requested this to be done....You guys know I'm obsessed with scrap....and this card....I believe it to be a "rossetta" scrap.....gives us such insight to the process of the lithography...The Young is part of the family of back ghosts: Starr, becker, Weimer, Gibson chances....that definitely changes a WST ghost $100 card to an overprint 10 K card.....this has so many aspects of scrap.......the back ghost, Young , not to mention...


This card alone was part of one sheet , that if I saw the whole sheet, I think I would literally have a heart attack

these scraps are not crap


they are "mini" works of art....true little "snowflakes"...just exciting, t206 alternative cards.....rare....one of ones.....cards like these are centerpieces of a collection....you are truly blessed to have this card Leon...and I would n't want to let it go if I had it....


wow...

I 'm always shooting myself in the foot, and I don't want to "hype" these cards up, because they have now left my affordability....I was always the scrap/freak proponent, but that has kinds back fired on me..,i'm happy to see collectors enjoy them the way I do..collectors finally realize the "coolness" of these little wonders......so aesthetically pleasing...(to me at least)...and I see them not stopping.....just "unearthing" new ones....hidden gem amonst common and hofers....the excitement of finding a brown old mill or a uppy......the excitement of seeing a "colorless" card on ebay, and its a new yellow brown....new examples/types of the good ones....I gotta stop....before I have a scrap seizure..


as everyone here knows, I love my cards and seeing these cool ones....please post/share any here if youd like(not to hijack)

if I may, dissect the "auction estimates id say": to answer Leons question...


if this card was sold as SEVEN INDIVIDUAL SCRAPS.....Goodwin prices I'm going to take a stab....I hate putting an estimate on any of these, but there usually is nothing to compare to when you get this unique or rare...just what two collectors are willing to pay for something.....you Bastards better hope I don't win the lottery, I'm coming for your scrap

please dissect my Bigger auction house guestimate...

1) four back upside down Piedmont 350- 5- 7 K ???

2) EPDG scrap- I have never seen more than a handful ever- 3k- 5K ???

3) EPDG uppy 2 back scrap I have never seen one until now- 7 K ??

4) BRown OM - 10 K- 15 K ? less than a dozen known?? not sure about these estimates

5) Upside down overprinted Cy Young 2 part ghost- 15 K - 20 K

6) Upside down negative yellow layer young ghost Blank Back- 5-8K

7) Blank Back Mullaney-2- 3 K




that is on the highest ends I would estimate......do the math


these estimates would be for each individual scrap errors if they were separate(7) individual cards...


lets have some fun...throw out your estimates
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Old 01-04-2014, 01:34 PM
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Hey guys....I'm really excited about this thread.....glad I requested this to be done....You guys know I'm obsessed with scrap....and this card....I believe it to be a "rossetta" scrap.....gives us such insight to the process of the lithography...The Young is part of the family of back ghosts: Starr, becker, Weimer, Gibson chances....that definitely changes a WST ghost $100 card to an overprint 10 K card.....this has so many aspects of scrap.......the back ghost, Young , not to mention...


This card alone was part of one sheet , that if I saw the whole sheet, I think I would literally have a heart attack

these scraps are not crap


they are "mini" works of art....true little "snowflakes"...just exciting, t206 alternative cards.....rare....one of ones.....cards like these are centerpieces of a collection....you are truly blessed to have this card Leon...and I would n't want to let it go if I had it....


wow...

I 'm always shooting myself in the foot, and I don't want to "hype" these cards up, because they have now left my affordability....I was always the scrap/freak proponent, but that has kinds back fired on me..,i'm happy to see collectors enjoy them the way I do..collectors finally realize the "coolness" of these little wonders......so aesthetically pleasing...(to me at least)...and I see them not stopping.....just "unearthing" new ones....hidden gem amonst common and hofers....the excitement of finding a brown old mill or a uppy......the excitement of seeing a "colorless" card on ebay, and its a new yellow brown....new examples/types of the good ones....I gotta stop....before I have a scrap seizure..


as everyone here knows, I love my cards and seeing these cool ones....please post/share any here if youd like(not to hijack)

if I may, dissect the "auction estimates id say": to answer Leons question...


if this card was sold as SEVEN INDIVIDUAL SCRAPS.....Goodwin prices I'm going to take a stab....I hate putting an estimate on any of these, but there usually is nothing to compare to when you get this unique or rare...just what two collectors are willing to pay for something.....you Bastards better hope I don't win the lottery, I'm coming for your scrap

please dissect my Bigger auction house guestimate...

1) four back upside down Piedmont 350- 5- 7 K ???

2) EPDG scrap- I have never seen more than a handful ever- 3k- 5K ???

3) EPDG uppy 2 back scrap I have never seen one until now- 7 K ??

4) BRown OM - 10 K- 15 K ? less than a dozen known?? not sure about these estimates

5) Upside down overprinted Cy Young 2 part ghost- 15 K - 20 K

6) Upside down negative yellow layer young ghost Blank Back- 5-8K

7) Blank Back Mullaney-2- 3 K




that is on the highest ends I would estimate......do the math


these estimates would be for each individual scrap errors if they were separate(7) individual cards...


lets have some fun...throw out your estimates
Johnny, you get all giddy about this stuff, it's great!! It's always nice to see passion in the hobby.
As much as I would like a realized price based on individual prices I don't think there is any way to do that with this kind of scrap. It has to be taken in it's totality. If someone were to give it to me for our auction I would give them an estimate of 20k+.....I think there are enough well heeled collectors to get to that point fairly safely in today's environment. Anything after that would be anyone's guess.....then too, maybe it would be like some other recent cards that don't get close to the auction estimate? It would be fun to watch.
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Old 01-04-2014, 01:54 PM
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I think it would safely be worth 15-20K to any number of collectors...but the real interest would be how far those last two guys would take it. It's probably a you-only-get-one-chance-to-get kind of card, so it might sell for quite a bit more than 20K.

And I think if you really want to see what's going on on the back, you first need to drop some acid.
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Old 01-04-2014, 02:28 PM
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I think Jamie Hull was onto something with this post about the unknown yellow pass possibly being from the horizontal Mullin. I was not able to do this perfectly, as I don't have the skills of a pro like Chris, but maybe this leads to something...
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The other yellow is Mullin Horizontal. The Yellow does the grass and the glove.
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I was getting all the evidence I needed when I was writing my post. So someone else already answered when I was doing that.
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Yup, that's it.
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This is lined up a little bit better...
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Wouldn't the glove (brown) be added last? Thus you can cover it.
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