1993-94 topps black gold winners

[frankhardy]

I am a Cardinals team set collector so have these cards, except for the 1994 ABCD "not redeemed" and the ABCD "certified. I have everything else.

As far as the "reflective" foil, are you sure that you are holding the card at the correct angle? Maybe the foil on that particular card just isn't as reflective as the others. All of mine reflect to one degree or the other. Just a thought.

With the A/B "certified" checklist, mine matches yours with messed up numbers. I do not know of a corrected version, but that doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. My guess is that there is no other version because these cards are not very common to begin with.

With the A Winner Players being on a C Winner Label, I have not heard of this and would love to trade. I will be sending you a PM and would love to also discuss team set collecting.

Edited to comment on Steve's observation: My A Certified Winner matches the picture meaning that it does not have a the white border. Good catch.

Edited to comment on Joe's following observation: I agree that the white border is there and the foil covers it up. It is hard to see, but you are right.

[frankhardy]

I think it is kind of funny that the SCD catalog from 2007 lists the 1994 Black Gold Winner ABCD as having a value of $0.75. I think it would go for just a little bit more than that!

[Miniduff]

The 93 unredeemed abcd winner still sells pretty well actually. $12+

[cardinalcollector]

I recently picked up a nice lot of these looking for CERTIFIED copies of C, D, CD, and ABCD WITHOUT copyrights. I'm not sure if they exist or not. Unfortunately they all had copyrights.

I'll give these away free to anyone who needs them for their collection, just tell me what you need and send me an e-mail or PM. First come first serve.

If anyone has CERTIFIED copies of C, D, CD, and ABCD WITHOUT copyrights, I am looking for one of each.

All of these have the reflective foil, copyrights, and are the certified copies. All of the A/B cards show Lankford as #0 instead of 10, and Larkin as #1 instead of 11 on back.

I have the following to give away:

A (10 copies)
B (8 copies)
C (8 copies)
A/B (8 copies)

As a side note, all of my 1994 winners, certified and non, have the copyrights.
I also believe that the 1994 ABCD certified card is far and away the hardest winner card to find. It took me 15 years to find one and I paid dearly for it.
Any other observations are welcome.

Regards,
Randy

[ALR-bishop]

Finally completed all the possible checklists for these two sets ( 93 and 94), 14 for each set, A/B/C/D/AB/CD/ABCD, certified and not certified ( not redeemed).
Some of the not redeemed cards can be pretty pricey

[Peter_Spaeth]

There's a 5 year statute of limitations on bumping threads so you just made it under the wire.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Ok, these are cool, and I totally missed them! I have read and re-read this thread, consulted Google, and checked ebay. After all of that, I am still a little foggy.

So, there's 44 in the set, and each card in the set has at least one variation/winner card (if that's the correct way to put it) accordingly?:

Winner A (1-11)
Winner B (12-22)
Winner C (23-33)
Winner D (34-44)
Winner AB (1-22)
Winner CD (23-44)
Winner ABCD (1-44)

So, for example, the first 11 players in the set would have four cards: the regular, Winner A, Winner AB, and Winner ABCD? Are the unused redemption checklist cards considered part of the "set?"