Lelands Lot #153 Heads Up.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by E93

Pathetic! I guess this is one more auction house I cannot trust.
JimB

Sad isn't it Jim. Greed has reared it's ugly head yet again.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Sad isn't it Jim. Greed has reared it's ugly head yet again.

You've got a guy in Josh who signed his dog up to shill bid unsuspecting customers of Leland's Auctions and we're surprised that he's still trying to steal a few more dollars with his bullshit 'update' on a massively restored poster?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

You've got a guy in Josh who signed his dog up to shill bid unsuspecting customers of Leland's Auctions and we're surprised that he's still trying to steal a few more dollars with his bullshit 'update' on a massively restored poster?

Perhaps the dog is the consignor and wants to realize the highest possible price consistent with avoiding a potential fraud claim, rather than making the fullest possible disclosure?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by calvindog

You've got a guy in Josh who signed his dog up to shill bid unsuspecting customers of Leland's Auctions and we're surprised that he's still trying to steal a few more dollars with his bullshit 'update' on a massively restored poster?

I don't see how you can prove his dog was shill bidding, I think he really wanted this item:

http://www.lelands.com/Auction/Aucti...ies-Dog-Collar

[wonkaticket]

Just saw this image from one of our member’s websites thought it was rather funny. As well as a little more salt in the wound. Here is the placard from the National. Love the last line.



Add this in with the reluctance to add images and new description until after I had to publicly post here, then the continued stretch of saying the restoration is “almost undetectable” which of course is a joke. I really am beginning to think Leland’s is the owner of this item.

Otherwise why go to these the lengths to cover a consignor, and a consignor who is no longer with us to boot. Unless Josh says otherwise I’m inclined to think they are the owner as mentioned in this thread.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Well if only a handful are known it is by definition one of the finest specimens extant, no?

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well if only a handful are known it is by definition one of the finest specimens extant, no?

[calvindog]

Just checking the Leland's auction ending tomorrow -- noticed a full Led Zeppelin ticket from a show on August 23, 1970. The Leland's catalog describes the show as follows:

"One of the greatest rock and roll bands ever to hit the stage, Led Zeppelin played a 10-song set at San Antonio's Hemis-Fair Arena on August 23, 1970 beginning with their hard-charging rocker "Immigrant Song."

A simple google search reveals that the show was "cancelled due to health concerns, because of an outbreak of children's diphtheria in San Antonio." -- Led Zeppelin official website. On the Led Zep website there are also reproduced newspaper articles noting the cancellation of the show.

[Eric72]

For the auction house to initially try passing this off as unaltered is an example of everything wrong with our hobby. Additionally, they are still contending that the, "poster is in NRMT condition." It is utterly shameful to call this anything other than Authentic...and even that is a major stretch.

If informed that the piece had undergone a major restoration, which definitely seems to be the case here, they clearly had a duty to disclose same. Had the information provided to them gone unnoticed and they were also too inexperienced to spot this independently, they have no business handling the piece in question.

On the flip side...in my humble opinion, the restoration job is tremendous. Had it been fully disclosed from the beginning, the impressive work done to the poster would have likely driven bids higher. Now that this piece has an aura of deceit hanging over it, I can't help but to think the hammer price (for this auction, anyway) will suffer.

Wonka (along with many others in the Net54 community) has done an exemplary job at shining the light of truth onto a shadowy corner of our hobby, which continues to be fraught with peril. I am grateful to him...and all of you...for sharing your knowledge and experience.

Best regards,

Eric