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Old 12-22-2013, 02:34 PM
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Wow, that's a major restoration. Restoration to me means cleaning up some staining/foxing, very minor touch ups and deacidfication. That said, I'm amazed that this restoration was done by hand vs computer generated!
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:44 PM
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That had to cost a fortune to restore. I've only heard good things about the work of this company for years.

Just like a restored car or any other restored piece of art, the work should be disclosed, but I don't see anything inherently wrong with it.

I'd much rather have the restored version of that poster, no matter how much work was done to it, rather then that torn up version for display, same as I'd rather have a restored '67 Mustang, rather then the original rusted out hull and corroded engine that it started out as.
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:53 PM
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"I should have looked more closely at the pics that John sent". Not that I would be a buyer for this, but what a laughable excuse. It's a shame that this auction house doesn't look more closely at their auction items. Are they this lax with their autographs and other items?
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:46 PM
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Maybe Josh's dog was responsible for handling this item's description in the catalog? I understand he's an important part of the Leland's auction team, Department of Shill Bidding.

I'm convinced that no matter how many second chances these auction house principals get, no matter how many tears they shed, they simply cannot control themselves when given a chance to lie in order to make a buck. What a disgrace.
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Old 12-22-2013, 04:48 PM
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could you elaborate a little about Josh and shill bidding?
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:06 PM
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So, I guess it's OK if I remove the first back from the card and replace it with the second back, as long as I disclose that the card has been "restored"?

At least in this case I am using an original back. Would it be OK if I printed a back from my computer and attached it to the card and said the card was restored?
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:11 PM
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could you elaborate a little about Josh and shill bidding?
Yes -- there's been massive shill bidding in Lelands's auctions. If Josh comes on here and denies it -- he won't -- I'll go into painstaking detail.

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Old 12-22-2013, 06:43 PM
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I for one think its awesome that the AH's pulling these stunts are called out publicly on this forum and are pursued by respected collectors in our hobby such as Jeff and John.

Although it doesn't totally stop these thieves it does get their attention and makes so many others aware of the wrong doing that's happening right before our eyes.

These crimes affect us all in some way. Jeff, John, thank you for all your efforts. This collector appreciates it.

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Now that Leland's has the knowledge gained from the "before" pictures supplied by John, I think it would be safe to remove this line from the description....

"There is some chipping at the upper edges, and some residue on the reverse, meaning the poster may have been mounted at one time."



Also, not to pile on, and maybe it's just semantics, but I also would also disagree with their assessment that "the restoration work is virtually undetectable" when it's clearly visible when looking at the photo...
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