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Old 12-22-2013, 10:09 AM
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every time this comes up, i say this. i have submitted a decent amoutn of cross overs. over 75 percent, of the sgc cards won't get crossed over when requesting the same grade.

im not sure why everyone thinks that the grading is tougher at sgc. that is far from my experience.

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Old 12-22-2013, 10:29 AM
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Funny that no one mentioned Beckett. Ugly slabs, bad pop report, and in my experience - poor customer service. No response at all to a question I sent them in regard to a mislabeled slab.

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Old 12-22-2013, 11:46 AM
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every time this comes up, i say this. i have submitted a decent amoutn of cross overs. over 75 percent, of the sgc cards won't get crossed over when requesting the same grade.

im not sure why everyone thinks that the grading is tougher at sgc. that is far from my experience.

kevin
I have very limited personal experience with crossing cards over to PSA. But from what I have read about others experiences, I do think there is a very good chance that PSA does not cross over cards in slabs on purpose. There are so many stories of how a card would not cross in slab, yet once busted out, they end up crossing. I would say the general census on the PSA boards is it's a waste of time and money crossing a slabbed card.

Now just to be fair, maybe PSA feels they cannot get a good enough look at a slabbed card. But my gut tells me that's not the likely reason.
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:33 PM
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In my opinion, PSA cards cost me more as a collector because their Registry has such a rabid user base; heated PSA Registry competition creates higher prices for those slabs and also creates greater demand for graded PSA commons, hence more of their slabs being sold.

The upshot of all this is that PSA cards wind up costing collectors more because this PSA Registry demand is priced into those slabs, to some extent.

As a buyer, where possible, I try not to pay a premium for a game I personally do not play. That said, when I am seeking a card I will find the card I want, and whatever of those major TPGs has slabbed it, is fine with me.

Of course, I can see sellers desiring PSA for these very same reasons, just being on the opposite side of the table. Though if any sea changes were to take place in the TPG landscape, selling would turn to whoever is the market leader in X-many years.

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I disagree. I have seen many SGC 5s with corners that are too rounded to get a PSA 5, and higher grade cards that are too off center to get the corresponding PSA grade.
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I disagree. I have seen many SGC 5s with corners that are too rounded to get a PSA 5, and higher grade cards that are too off center to get the corresponding PSA grade.
+1, and pertaining the higher graded, off centered SGC cards, I have many available for sale....

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Old 12-22-2013, 04:45 PM
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by your off-centered cards - every collector gets to determine how to play the collecting game for themselves and align themselves to whichever company meets their expectations. I have some PSA 4's with back damage - perhaps we can trade. I am relatively happy with the job SGC does. I am not enamoured of the one that PSA does although if a card meets my standards I still buy their cards. I find SGC to be the most "professional" and their holder frames and protects my cards nicely. Of course I'm a 19th century guy - a minority voice..........
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Old 12-22-2013, 05:46 PM
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I've got BGS/BVG/SGC/PSA cards in my collection. Each have their own quirks. No two grades are alike. Some PSA cards are better than some of the SGC's, some of the SGC's >>> PSA. Ditton for the BGS/BVG stuff. I'm not going to cast stones in either graders direction. There are good points and bad points about each TPG.
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Honestly, I believe everyone's opinion is just that...their opinion. I think the cheerleading for either side is pointless unless you have valid points to bring to the table. I have gained experience from others on which TPG they prefer and why, but most importantly I only determined which I liked from purchasing and examining them myself.

PSA scares me A LOT when it comes to pre war...just a good amount of inconsistency. PSA 3's and some higher with paper loss or just plain overgraded cards. ..but I buy any slab...just depends on the card of course That being said, cards in lower grades can definitely vary within the same grade. I myself, prefer SGC, but do like PSA quite a bit for modern cards (high grade examples).

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I disagree. I have seen many SGC 5s with corners that are too rounded to get a PSA 5, and higher grade cards that are too off center to get the corresponding PSA grade.
exactly.
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