Lelands Lot #153 Heads Up.

[Steve D]

Considering that it appears the left-most 3"-4" of the poster, along with major portions extending 3"-4" in from the right border have basically been replaced, including major parts of Anson, Kelly and Ward, more specifics regarding the restorations are in my opinion, a must.

Steve

[batsballsbases]

All I can say is WOW. Thanks John for posting this.

[jcmtiger]

Lots of restoration, but to bad the Sports Collecting world does not accept restoration like the Art world does. Multi million dollar art pieces have been restored and the Art World accepts the art after the work is done. The same is to be said about the Comic Book collectors.

Joe

[mrvster]

as always....you are a super slueth

wow to this

[Cardboard Junkie]

Excellent information John. Thanks, and &@#$ Lelands.

[drcy]

Amazing restoration job, though. Earned their money. Would be nice to know who did it.

[joeadcock]

Originally Posted by drcy

Amazing restoration job, though. Earned their money. Would be nice to know who did it.

Amazing indeed.

[CW]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

Lots of restoration, but to bad the Sports Collecting world does not accept restoration like the Art world does. Multi million dollar art pieces have been restored and the Art World accepts the art after the work is done. The same is to be said about the Comic Book collectors.

Joe

After watching a few episodes of Antiques Roadshow I've learned that poster collectors also accept restoration, and it can definitely increase the value of a damaged poster. I'd imagine this A&G banner would have that crossover appeal -- ie. sports memorabilia and poster collectors, with the latter already accepting this type of restoration.

While I wouldn't be bidding on this, thanks for the exposure, John.

This type of restoration is amazing, and I think when a piece is so far deteriorated or damaged, the restoration should be accepted within the hobby as it now becomes an enjoyable piece. Full disclosure on these types of restorations should obviously be disclosed when these pieces are sold.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

Lots of restoration, but to bad the Sports Collecting world does not accept restoration like the Art world does. Multi million dollar art pieces have been restored and the Art World accepts the art after the work is done. The same is to be said about the Comic Book collectors.

Joe

Joe, I think acceptance of restoration is a bit closer than you might think: Restoration of comic books vastly de-values the item, as it does for posters. The paintings that require major restoration (never as much as this poster) are generally MUCH older that this poster. Also, posters and comic books are created by mechanical processes, while paintings are done by hand; however, restoration is done by hand for all three. It's understandable (to me, anyway) that manual restoration of manually-created art is more accepted.

[drcy]

My former brother in law was a big vintage Hollywood movie poster collector. He said a Vg poster restored to Near Mint condition would be worth more than Vg but less than Near Mint unrestored. And, either way he said, the restoration had to be disclosed at sale.

[wonkaticket]

These types of items there are really 3 types of work that collectors are ok with and is almost always disclosed and isn't hidden or glossed over. In fact in many cases its a badge of pride and they are happy to tell you of the the below.

Preservation & Stabilization: This includes perhaps stopping tears from tearing more, adding acid free backings to bring stability to the item, minor cleaning of foxing and such. All of this increases value in my mind because very little has been done short of saving it for future generations of collectors and the item is as close to original as the day it left the factory.

Minor Restoration: This includes the above steps, but may also include minor in painting of damaged sections, repairs of more major tears, adding minor amounts of material to missing sections or even recreating minor sections of missing graphics. This would increase the value of a damaged item. However if there are other better condition examples within the market place this would never sell for as much as the other examples.

Major Restoration & Recreations: This is where huge portions of an item have been fixed up, where massive amounts of damage has been replaced with newer laser printed/modern lithograph sections have been grafted into the original. These items can be a great value and unless it’s the only example known should always sell for a fraction of the above two.

That’s my take….and all of this is par for the course in these early printed lithographs nothing that any auction house wouldn’t be aware of and something that every collector would want to know.

Cheers,

John