Torre, La Rusa & Cox get the call.....

[autograf]

Agree.....now Glavine & Maddux have to go in..........curious to see who else.....

[z28jd]

That's who I guessed would go in and they are the only ones I think deserved it out of this group, though you could make a strong case for Ted Simmons. I've just never heard support for him, so I didn't think he would get any.

I'm glad Steinbrenner didn't get in. I'm not even sure how he gets support with his two extended suspensions from the game. He was hated for most of his time and the team only really built up when he wasn't around serving his second suspension. It would be like Manny Ramirez getting a HOF push after all his suspensions. Ramirez isn't getting in, no chance, yet an owner that was suspended twice for lengthy times by baseball, is a legit candidate for some people? Kind of a crazy double-standard going on, never mind the fact that Steinbrenner was one of the owners turning a blind eye to steroid use, yet profiting off of it, then pretending like they had no idea. I wouldn't put in any owner from the 90's, don't care what his team did on the field.

Marvin Miller is another one I don't get the support for. How about drumming up support for some long-time scouts, coaches, deserving players not in already, not some guy that helped make a family trip to the ballpark, something you need to take out a loan to do. MLB went on strike/lockout five times during his time in charge, thanks for that. They don't need to go down that path because next thing you know, Scott Boras will be on the ballot. Stick to the guys on the field and the ones employed by the teams that are doing work in the trenches. Not some suit and tie making the players rich and fans poor.

[bigtrain]

Apparently, no one else was close. The other candidates got fewer than 6 votes out of 16.

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Real class shown by Yankee Prez. Levine for blasting Hall of Fame for not putting George in yet.

[autograf]

The people voting for those guys were ex-players though--right? You'd think Miller would get some support from them based on the salary escalation that he caused.....Steinbrenner for the same reason! He's caused EVERYONE's salaries to be upped due to his big checkbook. I think they'll get in some day but it might be a while. Will they be re-listed on a similar ballot in the future?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by autograf

The people voting for those guys were ex-players though--right? You'd think Miller would get some support from them based on the salary escalation that he caused.....

Nuts that Marvin Miller hasn't gotten in yet.

[savedfrommyspokes]

I wonder how these inductions will effect the prices on these three players/manager's cards....for example, since the announcement of Ron Santo in Dec 2011, his 1960s cards have commanded a premium over BV due to increased demand by the HOFer collectors. Torre's cards from the 60s and Cox's 69 card already have a slight premium over BV, so will they have an even greater demand following this announcement then they currently do?

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by z28jd

Marvin Miller is another one I don't get the support for. How about drumming up support for some long-time scouts, coaches, deserving players not in already, not some guy that helped make a family trip to the ballpark, something you need to take out a loan to do. MLB went on strike/lockout five times during his time in charge, thanks for that. They don't need to go down that path because next thing you know, Scott Boras will be on the ballot. Stick to the guys on the field and the ones employed by the teams that are doing work in the trenches. Not some suit and tie making the players rich and fans poor.

John, you know I respect your opinion, but I have to disagree with you.

It is true that baseball salaries have skyrocketed, and as a result, it's difficult for the average fan to attend games on a regular basis. Ticket prices, concessions and even parking, in the aggregate, have become cost prohibitive. But I don't know if it's fair to say that is a direct result of Miller's actions. The Reserve Clause needed to be abolished. Players were basically beholden to ownership. Prior to the actions of Curt Flood, and Miller, there was no established forum to address grievances against team owners, and a player never had any say where they played. As former Baseball Commissioner Fay Vincent summed it up, Marvin Miller emancipated all baseball players, and by extension, all professional athletes.

[ChiSoxFan]

Originally Posted by autograf

Agree.....now Glavine & Maddux have to go in..........curious to see who else.....

How about Frank Thomas?

Thanks,
ChiSoxFan

[Rickyy]

Can't argue much with the managers.... I agree too about Ted Simmons...he certainly had the offensive numbers...but he was underrated as a catcher too...

Ricky Y

[oldjudge]

I personally don't think either Torre or Cox deserved it. Unlike some others here, I think Steinbrenner deserves to be in. Opinions are like ass holes, right?