The Ballcard Collector - April 1973, w/Lionel Carter etc...

[William Todd]

Thanks Leon, I have a number of T207's and T206's owned by Lionel Carter and I really enjoyed reading the article as I feel the way Lionel did then today...don't tell me its mint if its very good...

[ethicsprof]

any time you bring something up about Lionel Carter, I'm most excited to
hear!!! He was one of the gentlemen and icons of this fine hobby.
thanks
all the best,
barry

[CW]

Great stuff, Leon -- thanks for scanning and posting!

Also interesting to note that even as early as 1973, hobbyists were clamoring for the days when collecting cards was done for fun and not as an investment.

"A mint card is a mint card regardless of age!! It is not the condition of the card that should be lowered, but the condition in which you will accept the card that should be lowered." -- Lionel Carter

Looks like Mr. Carter was willing to go down to "EX-MT" condition on his E cards... (note: not my cards. Images were saved years ago when Carter's collection was sold after his passing. Shown here as a testament to his eye for condition)

[TheBig6]

Thanks for posting that , Leon
Earlier Hobby material is neat to read.
Heres the only thing I have,

[steve B]

Two things really stood out to me.

The first was the mention of Roosevelts stamp collection. Oddly, he didn't have as much expensive stuff as you'd imagine. And much of that was presented as gifts from foreign governments.
He did either influence or start the design for nearly every stamp issued during his presidency, and was a very active collector.

The second was the desire for Topps to produce a 400 card set the size of T cards.
We only had to wait 35 years, and they're usually 350 cards, but they did eventually do that.

Steve B

[Leon]

I think Lionel Carter was one of, if not THE, first collector in organized collecting who focused on condition. Those cards above help make the point!!

[Piratedogcardshows]

I love these old publications.Thanks as always Leon another great read.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think Lionel Carter was one of, if not THE, first collector in organized collecting who focused on condition. Those cards above help make the point!!

Agreed and I'm proud to own one.

[Exhibitman]

Great stuff! Love the old-tech, old-school hobby rantings.

Interesting how the complaints are basically the same: bad dealers, overgrading, whining about investors, etc. I guess the more the Hobby changes the more it stays the same.

Nice ASCCA PC above. This is one I have from the first show I ever attended:




Got it on eBay a few years ago. I wish I'd kept my show ticket--it was an unused NY Yankees playoff ticket stamped with an ASCCA overprint. Had it for many years but lost it in one of my moves. Funny, it sure felt like a hell of a lot more than 60 dealers to an 11 year old boy. Boy, I wish I could jump in a time machine with $10,000 and go back to that show...

[LKeeler]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Agreed and I'm proud to own one.

Awesome Keeler, Tony. Keep me in mind if you ever want to part with it!