CANO to Seattle

[Old Hoss]

I don't think my post indicated that I feel like all players should flock to the Yankees. I indicated a fairly rational explanation for the likely outlook of many Yankee fans, and I am someone with ties and an interest in BOTH teams. I was responding to a post about the entitlement of Yankee fans--maybe some fans have a sense of entitlement (isn't being a fan of any team about entitlement in some way, shape, or form?). Yankee fans have high expectations, not because of pinstripes, but because of their market and their money. Should a post about Yankee fan expectations and the fact that they are likely to win more postseason games than the M's be taken to mean that "all baseball players should flock to the Yankees"? Or that all fans should be Yankee fans? No and no.

I'm sorry if my post was taken to be about Yankee fan superiority, or interpreting my advocacy for people being fair-weather fans. That was not my intention. I think anyone who is being objective would agree with the statement I made, and know that it was not about the actual superiority of teams or fans. I have a huge rooting interest in the M's and would like to see them have a successful run.

I also love baseball, in general, and have an interest in parity in the game.

Are you defending Eric Wedge with your rhetorical question about managers?

[71buc]

In order to compete now I think the Mariners could:

• Trade Taijuan Walker for David Price
• Trade Nick Franklin for Billy Butler and install him as the DH
• Sign Corey Hart and make him the first baseman
• Trade Danny Hultzen for Joc Pederson and put him if right field

Starting Lineup
1. Ackley LF
2. Kyle Seager 3b
3. Robinson Cano 2b
4. Billy Butler DH
5. Corey Hart 1b
6. Joc Pederson RF
7. Michael Saunders CF
8. Brad Miller SS
9. Mike Zunino C

Starting rotation
Hernandez
Iwakuma
Price
Paxton
Capps

[Deertick]

I believe it will take Walker AND Franklin plus for Price.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Deertick

I believe it will take Walker AND Franklin plus for Price.

Walker and Franklin aren't going anywhere. Paxton, maybe. He had a much better record last year than the Mariners had planned on. Could be the league will get used to him quickly and they might try to get rid of him before that happens.

[D. Bergin]

Hey, we'd be happy to trade Michael Pineda back to you.........for ANYBODY, who can make a big league roster.

Only a couple changes to Mike's post... He's probably forgotten more about the game and evaluating players than I'll ever know....

..... but I don't think Capps will be in the rotation, he's a decent middle reliever. I don't remember him starting any games last season. Erasmo Ramirez or Maurer might be a fifth starter with Hernandez, Iwakuma, Walker, and Paxton. I wouldn't mind a trade Paxton & Franklin for Price, but it's a pipe-dream.

Bloomquist at short, rather than Miller. Always liked him, glad he'll be back in Mariners uniform again. Ibanez was a welcome surprise after his return last season, maybe lightning strikes twice.

[71buc]

Originally Posted by pariah1107

Only a couple changes to Mike's post... He's probably forgotten more about the game and evaluating players than I'll ever know....

..... but I don't think Capps will be in the rotation, he's a decent middle reliever. I don't remember him starting any games last season. Erasmo Ramirez or Maurer might be a fifth starter with Hernandez, Iwakuma, Walker, and Paxton. I wouldn't mind a trade Paxton & Franklin for Price, but it's a pipe-dream.

Bloomquist at short, rather than Miller. Always liked him, glad he'll be back in Mariners uniform again. Ibanez was a welcome surprise after his return last season, maybe lightning strikes twice.

Signing a player like Cano was once a pipe dream as well. I like Capps' size and frame at 23 he will get thicker and throw harder. I think that with maturity, opportunity, and experience he could develop into a solid #3 starter. Obviously Walker is the jewel and I would prefer to keep him. However, Price is an established star who's addition to the team would serve put butts back in those vacant seats. I like Butler, and Hart coming off an injury would be affordable. Both could offer much needed protection for Cano without breaking the bank. I like Millers body and athleticism but ocassionally cringe when I see his foot work. Although I am not a huge fan of Miller I'll take his future over Bloomquist's. Bloomquist is a pro's pro but not a starter. I see his value in his ability to execute. He has a lot to teach Miller hopefully Milller recognizes that. Bloomquist also has the unique ability to play both short and center. I really would love to see them get Pederson from LA. I see him developing into something special and would love to see that career blossom in my own backyard.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 71buc

Signing a player like Cano was once a pipe dream as well. I like Capps' size and frame at 23 he will get thicker and throw harder. I think that with maturity, opportunity, and experience he could develop into a solid #3 starter.

If you are right, then the Mariners are certain to trade him first.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Walker and Franklin aren't going anywhere. Paxton, maybe. He had a much better record last year than the Mariners had planned on. Could be the league will get used to him quickly and they might try to get rid of him before that happens.

"No Price for YOU!!! NEXT!!!!"
-The Rays Nazi

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Deertick

"No Price for YOU!!! NEXT!!!!"
-The Rays Nazi

Haha. I didn't mean Paxton for Price. Personally, I hope Paxton becomes a key figure in the Mariners' rotation, as I bought a ball he threw in his first Major League game.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Old Hoss

I indicated a fairly rational explanation for the likely outlook of many Yankee fans,

Twice.

I already stated my thoughts on Eric Wedge. I get it - you disagree.