Problem with Legendary Lot . . . Opinions?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Better to wax than to let the price wane.

[Piratedogcardshows]

While I go agree with others who say ask for a better scan or description if the pinholes aren't visible they should mention it.Quick question were all the scans undersized in the auction or just this lot?

[vargha]

Originally Posted by Jason

While I go agree with others who say ask for a better scan or description if the pinholes aren't visible they should mention it.Quick question were all the scans undersized in the auction or just this lot?

The "enlargements" weren't big enough to see the holes. I assumed that anything that "egregious" would be disclosed. Obviously, I was wrong. I didn't go through a ton of listings, but individual cards like the E107's on page 1 all had huge scans. Some of the group lots I looked at had bigger scans. Some of the others seemed smaller like the Oxfords that I bought.

[bigfish]

I was bidding on this lot as well. The cards are graded so I based my bids upon the grades. If they were raw, I think you are onto something....I agree with Jay.

[Gradedcardman]

+1

[Rob D.]

If this thread was about some anonymous seller on eBay and a $100 card, the Net54 torches and pitchforks would be out.

Why is the onus on the bidder? It takes no more effort on the part of an auction house to post larger scans that would more clearly show problems on the cards.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

From Legendary's About Us Page:

"Our goal is your total satisfaction with the presentation of your fine collectibles. We do whatever it takes."

[Fred]

I would have requested larger scans.

Sometimes you're the bug, sometimes your're the windshield...

What's the last thing a bug sees as he hits the windshield?

Just out of curiosity, what did Legendary say?

[Cardboard Junkie]

Major flaws such as holes and paper loss/trimming etc. should specifically be mentioned in an items description. Auction descriptions should aim at accuracy not puffery.

[vargha]

Originally Posted by Fred

I would have requested larger scans.

Sometimes you're the bug, sometimes your're the windshield...

What's the last thing a bug sees as he hits the windshield?

Just out of curiosity, what did Legendary say?

Fred, I'll cover that at the end, then we can discuss Legendary and me on our thought processes. For now, I wanted to eliminate a little bit of the personal and discuss this as if it were the proverbial "friend of mine".

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

If this thread was about some anonymous seller on eBay and a $100 card, the Net54 torches and pitchforks would be out.

Why is the onus on the bidder? It takes no more effort on the part of an auction house to post larger scans that would more clearly show problems on the cards.

Agree 100% it takes two seconds to put up a good scan and all this drama goes away.

Heritage for example may be slow on shipping for some but those boys know how to put up a proper scan when they list an item.

[Duluth Eskimo]

This is not quite the same, but I have a feeling you may have been treated the same. Many years ago I bid on a rare vintage program in a Mastro auction. I was willing to pay whatever it took to win it as it was pretty much one of a kind and I wanted it for my collection. I won it, of course at my high bid. Anyways, I received the program only to find out the entire 8 page program was torn in half through the middle of the program. You could not see it in the photos because the tears lined up almost perfectly and nowhere in the description did it mention this or any significant wear. I was pissed. I spoke to Doug Allen about this and he basically said, "Oh well, you should have asked more questions prior to bidding". This entire thread basically overstates my opinion of that answer. I wanted the program as it was pretty much one of a kind, but thought I paid significantly more than I would have if the program would have been accurately described. I will admit that they did offer to re-auction the program, but I wanted the program even with the tear, but obviously thought I was getting screwed. Bottom line is Doug Allen said, "We will refund you $100, take it or leave it". I took it as I wanted an example of this program in my collection, but it left a very bad taste in my mouth and I got my first example at how Mastro and his crew did business. Some may say I should have re-auctioned the program, but I chose not to and I still have the program. I did choose not to do business with these people anymore nor give them any material to sell or referrals . Not sure how your issue will turn out, but I will say this "when you deal with the devil you are bound to get burned". I hope you get treated better.

[nolemmings]

Note the date. Lichtman and Schultz on the same side of an argument.

I know. I'm thinking of having myself tested. I'm hoping it's just the stress of the Holidays.