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Old 11-27-2013, 07:13 AM
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Based off the All-Star game votes I really don't think the public would be any better at picking the best people for the hall of fame. It would become more of a joke. I am not saying staying with the writers is the best idea, but giving it to the public is not a better idea it is just a different idea.
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:25 AM
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I think it's extremely insulting and unprofessional to sell your vote like this. People work hard to become a BWAA member and have the right to vote in these elections. It is supposed to be something you take pride in.
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:57 AM
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This is just wrong in my opinion. Also I agree that it is not a good idea to let the fans vote. Perfect example of this would be Don Mattingly. If it was up to the fans, especially casual fans, he would probably get in because of his popularity with Yankee fans, and now with dodger fans. I was a huge fan of his growing up but is not a HOFer.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:22 AM
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I'm pretty sure this writer is prepared to lose his vote in the future...he's smart enough to know that. The BBWA vote has always been a farce anyway. If a guy is a hall of famer give him your vote, but half of the writers will not vote for someone in the first year of eligibility because they don't think someone should go in on the first ballot.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:55 AM
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Not a fan or foe of Mattingly, but if Kirby Puckett got in, why can't Mattingly?
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:47 AM
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Not a fan or foe of Mattingly, but if Kirby Puckett got in, why can't Mattingly?
Good point.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:17 AM
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Not a fan or foe of Mattingly, but if Kirby Puckett got in, why can't Mattingly?
Puckett shouldn't be in either, two wrongs don't make a right.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:43 AM
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Do most of the members here even understand what Deadspin is and what they stand for?
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:03 AM
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Perfect example of this would be Don Mattingly. If it was up to the fans, especially casual fans, he would probably get in because of his popularity with Yankee fans, and now with dodger fans.
Trust me, he's not very popular with Dodger fans. He was only a few games from getting fired when Puig saved him.
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:34 AM
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He should be popular with Dodger fans. They weren't even a .500 team when he took over and he has finished 3rd, 2nd, and 1st consecutively since he's taken over.

Don't understand what they have to be mad at. Would they prefer going back to being 80-82?

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Old 11-27-2013, 09:48 AM
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My guess and hope is that you have not bought any votes but I am sure you are enjoying the moment of publicity you are attempting to gain.

The Baseball Hall of Fame is far from a "holy" institution but the Hall's annual selection process is not that flawed.

Take you your feeble attempt at sanctimony to the football board, they have no issues with fraud or class.
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My guess is that they don't have a vote but that they are trying to touch off a witch hunt for fun.
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I've got an a BBWAA pin in my collection. Does that mean I get a vote?

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My guess and hope is that you have not bought any votes but I am sure you are enjoying the moment of publicity you are attempting to gain.

The Baseball Hall of Fame is far from a "holy" institution but the Hall's annual selection process is not that flawed.

Take you your feeble attempt at sanctimony to the football board, they have no issues with fraud or class.
Mike,

Are you directing this to the writer of the article? If so, you may want to send that to Deadspin. I simply copied the article from the site for us to discuss here. Unfortunately, I don't think Deadspin is reading Net54...
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:43 AM
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James- Please accept my apology! I just breezed through it. I will indeed do that! Once again, sorry.

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The Baseball Hall of Fame is far from a "holy" institution but the Hall's annual selection process is not that flawed.
The Politics of Glory by Bill James provides many interest insights to HOF voting, and is a good read on the subject.
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Silliness. The "problem" guys got in due to veterans committee cronyism. BBWA has a much better track record. The issue with the BBWA is the 15 years of being on the ballot. If you're not in within 5 years or so, ya done.
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This is just wrong in my opinion. Also I agree that it is not a good idea to let the fans vote. Perfect example of this would be Don Mattingly. If it was up to the fans, especially casual fans, he would probably get in because of his popularity with Yankee fans, and now with dodger fans. I was a huge fan of his growing up but is not a HOFer.
why? his stats were almost identical to kirby puckett, yet puckett got in?
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why? his stats were almost identical to kirby puckett, yet puckett got in?
Don't believe Puckett should have been voted in either.
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